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Movie mistake in Generations!!

Momo Spock

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Report this May. 21 2012, 7:47 pm

When the klingons hack into La Forge's VISOR they saw like everyone else BUT La Forges visor allows him to see in colors and heat and stuff


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Mitchz95

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Report this May. 21 2012, 8:19 pm

Maybe they modified the signal so they could understand what they were seeing..?


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Report this May. 21 2012, 9:37 pm

You forgot the biggest mistake of all. This movies assumes Kirk is mortal and can be killed, not so!


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Report this May. 21 2012, 9:43 pm

no fail. they didn't just hack into it they modified it to control laforge. i think it's safe to assume the vissuals might be part of that modification.


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cochrane2063

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Report this May. 21 2012, 10:16 pm

They didn't try to control him. You're confusing that part with "The Mind's Eye", in which Sela actually does use his visor to control him.


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RStar17

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Report this May. 22 2012, 6:33 am

They could have just put a camera on the visor. Heck we have camera small enough for that today. Really I thought that was one of the few clever things about Generations.


The whole concept of the nexus is just fishy to me. Why did Soran have to blow up stars to move it to hit a planet with him on it? Yeah, yeah, ships that fly into it get damaged... except he got into it from a ship. Kirk did too. So did Guinan. And why's being on a planet and getting scooped up by it any safer than just getting dumped into it's path in a spacesuit?


Oh and the biggest fail in this movie goes to Picard. Supposedly you can leave the nexus and return to any time or place you want. So instead of bothering to get Kirk(and get him killed) he could have just said. "I want to return to the Enterprise while Soran is still on my ship and I can have a security team throw him in the brig." Then you save the planet, station and your ship. Not to mention you don't get Kirk killed.


DATAWORFfantotally

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Report this May. 22 2012, 8:04 am

it's called poetic licsense


 

beej1300

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Report this May. 22 2012, 11:31 am

Geordi is used to seeing in all spectrums of light and changing between them.  The Klingons are not.


 


We already do this kind of imaging today.


 


The Hubble and all the other space telescopes take images of different light spectrums and then using false coloring (google the Hubble Palette) create the images that we are so familiar with.


 


Since this is the idea behind how viewscreens work (creating false color images from the ships sensors), I would think that they would be able to have their viewscreen translate the information from the VISOR to the normal visual spectrum  just as if the information was from their sensors.


 


In fact, it is possible this "visual correction" may just have happened by default and unintentionally just because that would be how the viewscreen would normally translate such data.

RStar17

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Report this May. 22 2012, 11:47 am

Well the point made is that in an early TNG episode... Heart of Glory I think it was... when Geordi was on an away mission, Picard was watching it through his VISOR which displayed all the ultraviolet and infared and the such.


This was 1988 or 89 so they were just wanting to show how "advanced" they were. It's perfectly concievable they could have filtered out the other types of light during the upload. Either way that episode should really be overlooked or written off as they wanted to see things like Geordi did. Or Soran just installed another camera that captured normal light as I indicated earlier.


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Report this May. 23 2012, 4:08 am

Quote: Beershark @ May. 21 2012, 9:43 pm

>no fail. they didn't just hack into it they modified it to control laforge.


no they did not


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stovokor2000-A

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Report this May. 23 2012, 4:12 am

Quote: RStar17 @ May. 22 2012, 6:33 am

>The whole concept of the nexus is just fishy to me. Why did Soran have to blow up stars to move it to hit a planet with him on it? Yeah, yeah, ships that fly into it get damaged... except he got into it from a ship. Kirk did too. So did Guinan.


seems to be a long bet to get in by ship.


And why's being on a planet and getting scooped up by it any safer than just getting dumped into it's path in a spacesuit?


My guess was that the Nexus reacted badly gto most forms of tech, ship,suit, just werent safe.


Oh and the biggest fail in this movie goes to Picard. Supposedly you can leave the nexus and return to any time or place you want. So instead of bothering to get Kirk(and get him killed) he could have just said. "I want to return to the Enterprise while Soran is still on my ship and I can have a security team throw him in the brig." Then you save the planet, station and your ship. Not to mention you don't get Kirk killed.


kind of agree here


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Mitchz95

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Report this May. 23 2012, 8:24 am

Quote: RStar17 @ May. 22 2012, 6:33 am

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>Oh and the biggest fail in this movie goes to Picard. Supposedly you can leave the nexus and return to any time or place you want. So instead of bothering to get Kirk(and get him killed) he could have just said. "I want to return to the Enterprise while Soran is still on my ship and I can have a security team throw him in the brig." Then you save the planet, station and your ship. Not to mention you don't get Kirk killed.

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My best guess is that he wanted to minimize the changes to the timeline. But you're right, it is kind of weird.


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matilda.c.jackson

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Report this Jun. 04 2012, 12:04 pm

There's one thing which really puzzles me, when Picard was trying to convince Kirk, he said everything happen in the Nexus is not real, so as saving the planets and the Enterprise, so they are kinda still in the Nexus somehow, am I right?


this puzzles me since the first time I saw Generations, Finally, I can find someone to discuss about it 

stovokor2000-A

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Report this Jun. 04 2012, 12:21 pm

what makes you think they are still in the Nexus?


they both willingly walked out


 


 

Mitchz95

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Report this Jun. 04 2012, 4:38 pm

Just for the sake of discussion...perhaps they really didn't leave the Nexus, and the whole fighting-Soran thing (and all of Trek afterward) was just another illusion. I know that's not what happened, but it's an interesting what-if scenario.


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