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Mitchz95

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Report this Jul. 22 2012, 11:52 am

Quote: Cap.Marty.D.Young @ Jul. 22 2012, 11:07 am

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>And the villains motives were to destroy Starfleet and the Earth, obviously. 

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That was his plan, not his motive.


The way I understood it, his motives for attacking the Federation were 1) to seize more power and 2) to to make a name for himself as the man who destroyed the Federation, thereby eclipsing Picard in the history books. Remember what he said to Picard: "My voice shall echo through time, long after yours has faded to a dim memory!"


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Report this Jul. 23 2012, 11:47 am

Nemesis is an interesting topic. I thought it ended too darkly, but it was actually the first installment of a 2-part series. After Nemesis flopped, the plams for part two was abandoned.


In regard to Data dying, it was actually Brent Spiner's idea. He said he was too old to play a boyish ageless android, so he suggested to kill him off. Overall, I don't think it was too bad a movie. First Contact was 20 times better, but it wasn't a flop.



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Report this Jul. 23 2012, 12:12 pm

Quote: Sehlat123 @ Jul. 23 2012, 11:47 am

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>Nemesis is an interesting topic. I thought it ended too darkly, but it was actually the first installment of a 2-part series. After Nemesis flopped, the plams for part two was abandoned.

>In regard to Data dying, it was actually Brent Spiner's idea. He said he was too old to play a boyish ageless android, so he suggested to kill him off. Overall, I don't think it was too bad a movie. First Contact was 20 times better, but it wasn't a flop.

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>A two-parter? I never heard that before. Where did you see that at?

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Report this Jul. 23 2012, 2:52 pm

I saw the movie in Times Square NYC. Hated the movie theatre but loved the movie. I especially loved the Valdore class Warbird...thats one badass lookin' ship. Kinda like a Lamborghini Warbird. On a more serious note....Data giving his life for the Captain? Just what I would expect him to do. I thought that was great (even though i didnt want him to die) I enjoyed the film

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Report this Jul. 24 2012, 10:40 am

Quote: JK1701 @ Jul. 23 2012, 12:12 pm

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>A two-parter? I never heard that before. Where did you see that at?

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An eleventh Star Trek movie was initially planned during production on the tenth film, Star Trek Nemesis. Nemesis co-writers John Logan and Brent Spiner intended to follow that film with a "crossover" sequel. After Nemesis failed financially, however, this plan was abandoned


-Memory Alpha under Underdevolped Star Trek Projects


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JK1701

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Report this Jul. 24 2012, 11:28 am

Wow. If that's true, then I wish they would went ahead with their plans. But, I am one of the few that actually liked Nemesis, so.....


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Report this Aug. 04 2012, 4:10 am

They always do this with planned movies, even if they know it might not get made.



There was a fifth Batman movie planned after Batman and Robin (before Batman Begins) and a fourth Spider-Man movie planned before the latest reboot.


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Report this Aug. 29 2012, 11:20 am

When I left the theater after seeing Star Trek Nemesis, I felt like I hadn't watched a Star Trek movie. There were some pros and cons, but for me, the cons are more profound. First of all, the director was someone who was completely new to the Star trek Universe, and he tried to make it something kinda new for diehard fans. Unfortunately, it kinda backfired. Just look how poorly it did at the box office. Plus, the story was pretty violent for a ST film, and the atmosphere of it was gloomy and ominous. There were a few fun scenes, like the wedding reception for Riker and Troi, but I felt it was pretty cheesy. Ya know, too TOO sappy. The soundtrack was amazing, and it was great to see all the familiar faces of the TNG cast, but overall the movie wasn't one that I would put in my top 5 list. 


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Welena

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Report this Aug. 29 2012, 5:20 pm

Nice Q&A on the movie.  Enjoyed reading it a lot.  I like the Nemesis movie.   Thanks for all the input.


 

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Report this Oct. 10 2012, 4:15 pm

The only reason people hate Nemesis is because Data died. If Paramount had refused to make movies past The Wrath of Kahn, everyone would have hated it, because Spock died. But since there was a sequel bringing him back, it is considered one of the best movies. Since Nemesis' sequel was canceled, everyone hates it, because Data died, but if there was a sequel bringing him back as B-4, it would be very popular.


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Report this Oct. 10 2012, 10:10 pm

thats not true for me, and ZI very much doubt its true for the segment of the fandom that dislikes the film.


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Report this Oct. 11 2012, 4:14 pm

i,m sure that they will bring back data soon i hope

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Report this Oct. 13 2012, 9:35 pm

Quote: Vger23 @ May. 21 2012, 6:25 am

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>5. Fanboy wank-fest stupidity: Janeway making a cameo.

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Hey! I liked the Janeway cameo! lol


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Report this Oct. 25 2012, 12:21 pm

I wanted to like Nemeis a lot more than I did. Ultimately it was a forgettable film - felt like an episode of TNG extended into a feature film. Something like First Contact deserved to the climax of TNG, not Nemesis.


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Report this Oct. 25 2012, 1:12 pm

Quote: Wizardling @ Oct. 25 2012, 12:21 pm

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>I wanted to like Nemeis a lot more than I did. Ultimately it was a forgettable film - felt like an episode of TNG extended into a feature film. Something like First Contact deserved to the climax of TNG, not Nemesis.

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Hmm. I though that about Insurrection; nemesis seems to dark for something that would just be on TV


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