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Seeing TNG for the First Time

RStar17

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Report this May. 27 2012, 9:56 am

So after the planet of all Black people, we come to the planet of the skantily clad blonde haired, blue eyed people. You just couldn't get away with stuff like this today.


I found the Edo very annoying, but they wanted to execute Wesley, so they must have something going for them.


Joking aside, Picard would have been a jerk of the first order if they let him kill Wesley for the equivilent of jay-walking when the crossings aren't marked. Really for a planet of pacifists, their justice system is harsher than Hitler's.


Your typical over the top silly season 1 tng episode all told.


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Report this May. 27 2012, 1:03 pm

That one made me vomit. Seriously, who makes such idiotic rules for an ENTIRE PLANET?


"We keep doing each other favors." "Isn't that how alliances are born?" Jonathan Archer and Thy'lek Shran

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Report this May. 27 2012, 10:32 pm

The Battle: Good

After waiting for a response to their hails for three days, Picard finds that the Ferengi have discovered the “Stargazer” his old ship.

This episode was probably the best one yet. As I have said before, Ferengi is my favorite species. So I found that aspect enjoyable. As I mentioned in my Last Outpost review, I feel that DS9 portrayed Ferengi’s the way they should be, a neutral party (which is probably another reason why I should have watched TNG first, so I could really see them grow).

I enjoyed the Stargazer aspects, and the Battle of Maxia. I was able to find out more about Picards background, which is one thing I would like to know more about. I am not a fan of flashbacks, I only can bear them when used in a certain situation, but this episode was able to let you delve into Picards past without the use of flashbacks, which although may be hard for the writer, it really takes away a few minutes of annoyance. So I give props to them for that.

If I could add one thing to this episode it would be to add more information about what the “red sphere” was, and how it controlled Picard. But other than that, this episode was really entertaining.

@RStar17: Yes, I thought the same thing. I had to remind myself that it was made in the 80’s. I could see how someone would be offended by that. But I also found it very unrealistic, which is to be expected of Star Trek, but since it was on a planet similar to Earth and with human looking people it's natural to set limitations to how different it can be to real life. I think the laws and discipline for breaking them belonged on a more alien planet, and if that was the case then my response to this episode would be much different.

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Report this May. 27 2012, 11:30 pm

I would also rate this as good, but the first season ihe s somewhat awkward because the cast and writers were in the process of finding their footing.  It's a solid show....enjoy!

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Report this May. 28 2012, 9:57 pm

The Battle was alright. Originally the Ferengi were supposed to be the villains of TNG, but yeah that didn't work out for a good reason. I'm glad the evolved into something not the stereotypical good or bad guys but into something original. By season 3 of TNG they'll start being more like the DS9 Ferengi.


The concept of the Picard manuver is so cool, it's kinda disapointing you don't see it again after this episode.


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Report this May. 29 2012, 12:46 pm

Hide and “Q”: Not Great

Q returns with a new test for the Enterprise. Can Commander Riker resist the power of the Q Continuum?

Ok, as I have mentioned before, I am not a big fan of Q. I just can’t wrap my mind around him. Normally I can analyse a character like crazy, but it’s different with Q. I guess I just don’t know what he wants, or what his true motives are. Sometimes he shows a sort of need for humanity, or an interest,  and then he pulls things like “the penalty box”.

There's not much of a  backstory about him. I wonder where does he call home? How was he created? And many more questions arise. I guess without accurate information regarding him I can’t properly judge him, which irritates me because I really want to get right down to his roots.

But overall I think Memory Alpha said it best: “He has been described, in turn, as "obnoxious," "interfering," and a "pest". However, underneath his acerbic attitude, there seemed to be a hidden agenda to Q's visits that often had the best interests of Humanity at their core”.

I don’t have much to say about the episode itself, there was not too much that stood out that I would like to mention. So overall I didn’t find this episode very interesting, just Q and his “games”. I could see how you could enjoy it more if you were a fan of Q, but i’m not, at least not at this point in time, but it’s only the ninth episode so that could change quickly.

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Report this May. 29 2012, 8:49 pm

The Battle didn't do it for me.  Again, Picard is kind of taken over which always turns me off...the whole "possession" thing.  It was good to learn a little history but overall I did not find this episode interesting.


Jim

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Report this May. 29 2012, 8:52 pm

I would rate Hide and Q "Fair".  Early on I found Q too over the top for my taste but I later realized that DeLancie played it the way it needed to be played.  You have a long way to go but Q is in one of TNG's best episodes.  I liked the test of Riker and his failure was amusing.


Jim

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Report this May. 30 2012, 11:42 am

I am in the middle of the season 2 now and this post makes me want to watch it all over again

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Report this May. 30 2012, 11:55 am

Encounter at Farpoint and Hide and Q were easily Q's weakest episodes in TNG.


But the episode gets a +1 bonus in my book for Wesley getting impaled.


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Report this Jun. 01 2012, 12:25 am

Haven: Fair

Tension mounts on the Enterprise as Counselor Troi's arranged marriage nears, and her mother takes a liking for Captain Picard. Meanwhile, a plague ship threatens the planet where they are meeting.

I feel this episode was the base of many of DS9’s season six episodes. Although sometimes tacky and corny, romance does entertain a viewer, and in many cases Star Trek used that to their advantage.

I wasn’t a huge fan of this episode, I think it was a bit too corny at times. I did enjoy seeing Riker’s true feelings come out. I always have known there was something between Will and Deanna, its always there, but this is the first episode where it was made known vocally (I also know that they later get married, but I’m trying to forget I heard that). All around this is what I call a “character development” episode, where characters make relationships, lose relationships, and you find out more about their inner self.

@RStar17 and enhancesys: I’m glad to hear that he improves. As I have said before, I am writing these strictly based on first impressions, so the two episodes I have seen Q in haven't quite done it for me, but that is ok. I’m keeping an open mind. There were many characters I didn’t like at first in DS9, but they developed into amazing people, friends, leaders, and even villains. And I hope that is also the case with TNG.

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Report this Jun. 05 2012, 1:11 pm

Im also watching it for the first time and am trying to like it! Am currently on season 2 episode 13.


-I never realised yout thought of me as reckless, Tuvok. -A poor choice of words. It was clearly an understatement.

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Report this Jun. 05 2012, 1:13 pm

Haven was hilarious I thought! Much thanx to Momma Troi! This is one of the few apisodes I really have enjoyed!

RStar17

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Report this Jun. 05 2012, 1:54 pm

Troi's mother is easily one of the most annoying characters in the franchise. Though it is funny the lengths Picard will go to, to avoid her.


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Report this Jun. 05 2012, 2:21 pm

I agree that Troi's mother is annoying. 


Haven was a pretty good story but it was so over-the-top melodramatic...sugary-sweet at times.


Jim

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