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OtakuJo

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Report this May. 19 2012, 10:56 pm

Quote: DammitJim6200 @ May. 19 2012, 10:02 pm

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>Otakujo, clearly that vibrant thinking mind of yours is always at work, I bet you do good in your school studies..Well as I've stated before God is all powerful and all knowing he created us so much so he  created the universe and he dosen't need us in anyway but he do love us and we Do need him.For most of us proof of Gods existence isen't physical and he dosen't need to prove anything to us, God dosen't do parlor tricks to get our worship, we either do or we don't, those that do have faith in God can recieve his blessings, so, we don't expect him to appear before us as Morgan Freeman like in "Evan Almighty"..My belief in God is spiritual, most of us act on faith and what he says in the Bible.

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And that's absolutely fine -- I wouldn't try to convince you to believe otherwise. The only point at which our differing opinions would really matter is at the point where either party is attempting the other to change his/her/their mind/s. For myself I remain unconvinced.


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Report this May. 20 2012, 12:15 am

I believe in evolution as a logically feasible possibilty.


However, there is no such thing as "proof" of it as fact.


There is only proof of it as a logically feasible possibility.


 


The only "proof" of it as fact would have to percieved outside of the process its self in order for the theory to be considered an accurate analysis of said process.


Since this is impossible for us (inside the proposed process) to do, none of us can either prove nor disprove it as a fact; We can only accept it or deny it as a sound theory.


 


I accept it as a sound theory, and nothing more.


 


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Report this May. 20 2012, 12:42 am

Science has come in conflict with religion many times.  For example, the church taught that universe was centered around the Earth, and the sun, planets and stars revolved around the center of God's creation.  We were, literally, the center of the universe.  Some scientists began to argue that this was not true, but their threat to church dogma was seen as heresy and they punished or killed for their ideas.  However, time moved on and eventually the mounting evidence of fact and the broader acceptance of these ideas by the general population lead to the church finally admiting that the Earth revolved around the sun along with the other planets.  They did what they always do, which is to then claim that their acceptance of the proven truth is actually a sign of just how much more complex and amazing God's creation really is.  In medicine, the belief that demons or sin or lack of faith led to physical or mental illness have fallen to the wayside as more and more people accepted the inevitable reality of the truth.  It is ironic, of course, that people of faith will claim prayer caused a person to be saved from a horrible illness, when in fact generations of science and the pursuit of knowledge actually made the person's survival possible.  (Of course, if they don't survive, it was their time to go, they are in a better place or God has a greater plan we can never know.) 


Eventually, religious people are forced to finally accept the truth of scientific fact, but it will not harm their belief system in the least.  As some has said here, they believe in Evolution and believe in God, and Evolution is just God's amazing plan set in motion.  Scientists don't care why you finally accept the factual truth.   Whatever personal gymnastics you need to do to make it work for you is fine by them.  As long as you aren't trying to put "belief theories" on equal footing with "scientific theories" in our classrooms, it's all good.   Sure, some people will cling to their Adam and Eve riding dinosars nonsense, but most will find a way to adopt and incorporate scientific fact into their belief system.  This process is not new.  It just takes time and education for it to happen.


Religion has lasted this long because it morphs to fit the facts that science presents eventually.  It has to.  Otherwise religion would become laughable and comic.  Imagine if some faithful person still believed the sun and planets revolved around the Earth.  People of faith would consider them delusional.  In time, those who oppose the ample proof of Evolution will be seen the same way, so they adapt or become absurd.


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Report this May. 20 2012, 1:27 pm

When I here people say that they believe in evolution I ask them, "Why?" They simply answer, "Because there is evidence." I ask, "What kind of evidence"? "Fossil Evidence," they say. I can disregard fossils as actual evidence of evolution because there are way to many missing links for me to believe it. And for the record, evolution has a next to nothing chance of happening the way science says it has happened. In order for a successfull mutation to occur in a protein for an example it would take something close to a 10 to the 300th power for a simple protein to mutate successfully. And that's only one! We have thousands of others that according to evolution have to successfully mutate and the do the same or better functions than it did before. Therefore I think that God has created the universe and everything has a design made by him. Oh and I'm only thirteen.

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Report this May. 20 2012, 2:01 pm

Quote: Longtimetrekker1 @ May. 20 2012, 12:42 am

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>Religion has lasted this long because it morphs to fit the facts that science presents eventually.  It has to.  Otherwise religion would become laughable and comic.  Imagine if some faithful person still believed the sun and planets revolved around the Earth.  People of faith would consider them delusional.  In time, those who oppose the ample proof of Evolution will be seen the same way, so they adapt or become absurd.

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Longtime, the truth of the matter is that faith tends to wane when a move is made to adapt to the prevailing culture. It is the countercultural nature of the message of Christianity that caused it to explode in the first century and since then any time the faith has attempted to assimilate, it has become weak and irrelevent.


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Report this May. 20 2012, 9:13 pm

Me personally, I don't have any problem in compartmentalizing what I perceive to be reality and what is spiritual. Observable facts can be separated from faith. My interpretation of this world is limited by the physicality of it's existence, but I haven't been here long and my time will soon be over in relation to the eons that have come before me (or will come after). Jesus said something like "let those things that are caesar's belong to caesar and let the things of the spirit belong to the spirit." So with that in mind, I'll observe the world as it appears, even if it contradicts my hope or faith as long as it's the truth according to the parameters of this reality. But this reality will end for each and every one of us and that is not up for debate. My hope is none of this will matter a whit at the end.

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Report this May. 21 2012, 5:08 am

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Quote: k168mitchell @ May. 19 2012, 5:36 pm

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>only an idiot believes everything they read,dont forget  the bible was written by a MAN,with clipp notes and a feather.the purpose   way back  when was to gt people to follow the rules  so  hey i know  lets creat a bible and say it was good word.u follow it or your going to a bad place,now jump 3k years and look,were still under the thumb of zealots trying despreatly to take control of everythingok  jump  another 3k years and wat do u see,same thing.

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see thats the kinda bullshit you would expect from people lke you.god's  spirit  huh.and we have no ones word to believe but the MEN that so called did it with his guiedance,wtf ever!!!so  sorry i even commented because clearly your an idiot

 

Only an "Idiot believes everything they read" ? does that include books on EVOLUTION ? The Bible wasn't written by just anyone, my friend, the spiritual men that wrote the Bible got direction from God's spirit, and no one is trying to take control of anything, we either follow what the Bible say or we don't we have a choice.

 

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Report this May. 21 2012, 5:09 am

and im noot   UR  freind pal


 

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Report this May. 30 2012, 8:44 am

This clearinghouse site offers several logical proofs:


http://www.godandscience.org/


Of course, you may choose to believe them or not.  That is a matter of faith.


 


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Report this May. 30 2012, 9:07 am

Evolution really isn't abouting exceptance, evolution is about understanding the environment around you.


Take for instance understand the evolution of a grass seed. We can watch as the grass seed is grown by the host grass plant and through its ability to adapt to the enviroment around it, meaning the ability to incorporate various atoms and their energy into a single cell base. Once the ability of these cells has come together to use and transform atomic energy at the atom level where the cells are then able to create a productive center then the cells can be said to be life.


The greatest mystery behind evolution is at what point did the cells merely stop being just simple breeder cells creating new cells from old patterns that did the same thing over and over again and actually became sentient thought of diversity where curiosity about the cells surroundings led to the first sentient cellular lifeform?


When one asks theirself this question about their surroundings they have become the evolved sentient capable of discovering new and exciting things where each persons interpretation about how they perceive their surroundings.


"A blade of grass to one is a sword that they carry on many adventures. The blade of grass is also a bridge that ant uses to cross a length. The blade of grass also becomes a weave in a small basket that the ant is curious about and climbs into wanting to understand what it has found. Others see the blade of grass as a an engine carrying them far away to distant lands and planets.  Perspective Evolution is the key to unleashing your mind and your imagination, why? Because We all see the blade of grass as a simple thing sprouting from the ground." -Dryson Bennington 2012 AD


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Report this May. 30 2012, 10:59 am


Var Miklama--Zakdorn, engineer. "A sound mind in a FULL body!" "Time, like latinum, is a limited quantity in the galaxy."

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Report this May. 31 2012, 6:49 am

I think Daniel Bernoulli, Leonhart Euler, Immanuel Kant, George Boole and Paul Tillich were among some of the famous scientists and philosophers who offered proofs for the existence of God.


Var Miklama--Zakdorn, engineer. "A sound mind in a FULL body!" "Time, like latinum, is a limited quantity in the galaxy."

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Report this Jun. 04 2012, 12:52 pm

It makes sense, creation by a supreme intelligence..Could this remarkable world of ours evolve from an accident ? 

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Report this Jun. 04 2012, 10:32 pm

Darwin was full of it.  I think I heard at his death bed he was sorry for what he did.


 


Christ and God exist and I like Sci Fi.    


 


I think Einstein believe in God and some other famous scientists.

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