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You might want to read Proverbs 31...

I read it. It's basically advice from Lemuel's mother about her notion of what a good pairing of a man and woman should be like. Notice how the majority of the verses focus on the woman...what SHE should be doing, what SHE should be saying, how SHE should carry herself, how SHE should bring in the provisions and manage the household slaves, etc. There is far less about what the MAN should be doing or saying, and that doesn't even include an expression of gratitude or love. 

What's your point? That biblical values were misogynistic? That was kind of MY point, but thanks for the citation. I'll consider that a concession on your part.

...stop letting bambam let you beat him up; he plays a weird game...

I have to agree there. Fundies are masochistic when it comes to playing the victim card because persecution complex and religious martyrdom (symbolic or otherwise) are mechanisms religious leaders use to convince their mentally insane delusional sheeple that they are in the right, that they are on the side of God, that what they are saying is really true because the big bad meanies are trying to silence the truth.

In my job, I don't care about people's religion (or lack there of), political status, etc. - I just care whether they can do the job and work as part of my teams.  But, in other organizations that I am a member of, other factors do apply.  We don't allow someone that is blatantly against the principles of the organization to be a member.  Why would someone who hates something want to be part of something that promotes the very thing they hate?

that wasn't the point. Which you know. 

You know, what I mean. I shall rephrase just for you. It's a turn of phrase over here in the place where the sane people live. But I'll humour you.

Are we not to hire people merely because of their personal choices?

If someone didn't believe that their religion is the 'universal truth', then they don't really believe in their religion, do they?

Notice Bam's extreme insensitivity to religious peoples like Hindus, Wiccans, Native Americans, Buddhists, etc. all of whom believe there are many paths to the creator or enlightenment or whatever they choose call becoming one with their respective higher power. 

Delusional to believe that [The Bible] says that God is the only God? 

There's no question the Bible says it, that's a given. What's delusional is that you simply believe what is written, and even more so that you tout that book as immutable fact, even though it contradicts itself in many, many places.

Even the presence of a lone, Singular God is in question when you study scripture fully. And then you have God's adversary, Satan, who bears all the earmarks of a divine being - powerful beyond our understanding, he has an impressive portfolio in terms of "God of Evil", he has worshippers, he has an angelic host (alright some poeple would call it demonic) he is just like God in every way - he even gets to send his only son to Earth to screw with humanity in the book of Revelations. Of course a fundie would never admit to Satan being a God...because it would kinda contradict that meme about the monotheistic foundations of Judeo-Christian faith. 

Ignoring that would be delusional....

Delusional AND paranoid. Seriously, the afterlife concept of most religions, especially Christianity, absolutely reeks of the fear of death, no matter how much fundies bull$hit themselves into thinking they believe the contrary.

John 14:6-7  -- Jesus said, "I am the Road, also the Truth, also the Life. No one gets to the Father apart from me. If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him. You've even seen him!"  In the Christian faith, Christ isn't a way, He is the way.  It's very clear.

Once again, an excellent post on Lucifer's part.

An excellent reason for the Boy Scouts NOT to discriminate.

Guess that proves that you've never read the Bible.

On the contrary, you've shown greater ignorance of the bible in spades. That bit about Proverbs 31 was supposed to be a rebuttal? If this was a soccer game, you just kicked the ball in the wrong goal. I guess I should be thanking you. So thank you, Bam.

But based on your responses, it doesn't appear you really care what the Bible says... 

I actually do care, not only when it serves my purposes but I do acknowledge the historical significance of the Judeo-Christian religion, the Bible as well as the teachings of Jesus Christ...most of which aren't unique to Judeo-Christian religion, BTW. Even the Ten Commandments were practiced to one degree or another by cultures which predate Judaism itself.

You're choice, and your loss.

Not really. I'm an independent free-thinker who is not burdened by the ramblings of primitive savages who were afraid that a big invisible man in the sky would make them burn in hellfire for transgressions that are considered antiquated and savage in a modern civilized society guided largely by the rule of law, humanist principles, logic and science. I'm not beholden to a church or deacon or minister or whatever you want to call your paranoid delusion.

If you want to continue behaving like a primitive madman, that's your prerogative. And while you rub your bible vigorously between your arse and your gonads, I'll be enjoying my Sundays off wearing my poly-cotton blouses and miniskirts while eating shellfish and carousing with hot gay men. Or bi-curious women. Maybe both at the same time. 

And don't bother praying for me (despite the fact that is what you are mandated to do by Jesus...never read the bible my @$$), because that a waste of your time and oxygen (casting pearls before swine I think the Bble said**) Besides, one pair of working hands is worth a thousand clasped in prayer...be sure to do something constructive. Or alternately I'd rather you just punch me in the face.

**LOL I love how Jesus likens non-believers as swine, which according to the Bible is "unclean"

But considering your moniker, I seriously doubt you will due to your goals.

What does Battlestar Galactica have to do with this? I have stated publicly on many occasions this is the origin of my handle.

...probably only taken someone else's view and made it your own...

Another false assumption on your part...Gods you really love to assign motive and intent when you can't offer an intelligent response.

Jesus said, "I am the Road, also the Truth, also the Life. No one gets to the Father apart from me. If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him. You've even seen him!"  In the Christian faith, Christ isn't a way, He is theway.  It's very clear.

Translation: MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY. The condition of "Hero Syndrome" (most commonly found in public servants like firemen and healthcare workers) is when someone purposefully creates a perilous situation or otherwise endangers others for the express purpose of swooping in and saving the day, thereby gaining all the glory. When you consider that Christianity is all about praising the man who is the savior of EVERYBODY (past present and future), that's hero syndrome taken to its ultimate extreme. That's something an unrepentant psychopath, not a loving fatherly God, would do.

"Even the presence of a lone, Singular God is in question when you study scripture fully."

I know this is a little off topic, but I wanted to comment on this a little out of context. I just finished reading the Old Testament a month or two ago. I was really struck by how many references there were to "God" in the plural. I think it was only later in history, and not a part of the earliest writings, that talked of "other" gods as being "false" gods, gods that didn't really exist. So the one "true" god, is the Judaic god, one later worshipped by Cristians and Muslims. Moreover, it is very clear to me that "God" is an historic construct of Jews (and Christians).

Which brings me to another point. Leviticus. Have all you Christians out there actually read Leviticus lately? Do you honestly believe that it is the absolute word of God, and that it should be followed to the letter?

If you answered yes to both of those questions, then I would tend to agree with those who would categorize you as mentally ill.  

@TPATPAM...Even the Abrahamic religions acknowledged that there were other gods out there. Its in the Ten Commandments: "Thou shalt honor no other gods before me." meaning that God comes first before any other gods. NOT "There are no other Gods but me." which the Quran defined better in terms of not even acknowledging other gods. "There is no God but Allah and his Prophet Mohammed" 

Also Jewish tradition had other gods up until the Babylonian exile. Yawweh originally had a wife goddess who was the more popular of the two until the returning Jews imposed a monotheistic patriarchal system in order to help unify the divided Jewish communities. 

The idea of monotheism to the complete exclusion of other gods is relatively new even among Jews.