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Why No Ethnically Jewish Characters in Star Trek

Treknoir

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Report this Apr. 23 2012, 12:33 pm

Seriously? Does ANY "human" ST character specifically mention his/her religious/spiritual affiliation? They may allude to the their beliefs, or speak about what they believe, but I can't recall any stating, "I'm a *fill in the blank* and attend *fill in the blank*."


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Garfield-Nut

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Report this Apr. 23 2012, 1:21 pm

 However, as a Half-Jewish(Father's side) why NOT a clearly ethnically(Not Religious) ethnically Jewish character in the 24th century or After, like a  Captain Samuel Goldman of the Federation Starship  U.S.S. James A. Garfield, after the late President of the United States on Earth  ,  I heard  Admiral Bob played by Bob Bennett in movie Star Trek V- The Final Frontier was supposed to be a  Jewish Admiral,  and the  Federation President in movie  Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home- was a Jewish Human, Robert Ellerstein the actor was Jewish in real life

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Report this Apr. 23 2012, 1:22 pm

  Why are the Producers of the Franchise  Afraid of having an Obvious Jewish character in the future 24th century

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Report this Apr. 23 2012, 1:41 pm

Quote: Garfield-Nut @ Apr. 23 2012, 1:22 pm

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>  Why are the Producers of the Franchise  Afraid of having an Obvious Jewish character in the future 24th century

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like its been said before, there werent any really "Obvious" members of any religion.


Why are you harping on this Jewish thing only?


 


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Treknoir

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Report this Apr. 23 2012, 3:16 pm

Okay, clearly we're dealing with a troll or someone who is mentally "fragile" and should not be engaged. I think we can all move along to more productive topics.


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Report this Apr. 23 2012, 4:20 pm

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> However, as a Half-Jewish(Father's side) why NOT a clearly ethnically(Not Religious) ethnically Jewish character in the 24th century or After, like a  Captain Samuel Goldman of the Federation Starship  U.S.S. James A. Garfield, after the late President of the United States on Earth  ,  I heard  Admiral Bob played by Bob Bennett in movie Star Trek V- The Final Frontier was supposed to be a  Jewish Admiral,  and the  Federation President in movie  Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home- was a Jewish Human, Robert Ellerstein the actor was Jewish in real life

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So seriously man; what is your issue with this?

As an attempt to shut this down and as an attempt to help you get over your own self-labeling; I will point out that you are not Technically Jewish. If your mother is not Jewish, then you are not Jewish too; sorry, don't blame or label me; read the Torah if you like. 

Just realize, you are intentionally labeling yourself, incorrectly, and then choosing to take this ages-old banner into battles you are creating.  Labels are a bad idea; religion is an old idea too; just be happy with being the glorious You you are; and say 'to Hell' with all the pointless labels. 

Peace and Long Life. 

 

I agree about labels, but just because religion is old, does not make it bad. Conider all the great things we have retained from the past, such as democracy, philosophy, and republicanism, to be specifically Graeco-Roman.


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OtakuJo

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Report this Apr. 24 2012, 4:56 am

Why are the Producers of the Franchise  Afraid of having an Obvious Jewish character in the future 24th century


Quick answer: They're not.


End of answer.


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RedVengeance

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Report this May. 01 2012, 8:09 pm

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>No newfie's on Trek either.

>The Newfie steps onto the bridge wearing his rubber boots and oil skins and says "'ows ye getten on b'ys? Wheres da skipper to? 'oly lard tunderin Jeeses whas wrong wu buddy's ears?"

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Would a Jew who lives in Newfoundland be a Jewfie?


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Jason222

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Report this May. 10 2012, 7:15 pm

While hard say just name it possible Worf foster parents were jewish . Last name Rozhenko being jewish myself it jewish last name.

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Report this May. 12 2012, 8:19 pm

Quote: RedVengeance @ Apr. 17 2012, 9:58 pm

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>Because Gene Roddenberry was adamant right from the beginning about leaving religion out of the picture as much as possible.

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Good for Mr. Roddenberry. BTW, in the TOS series there is mention of Thanksgiving. Don't know which epi.

OtakuJo

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Report this May. 13 2012, 2:52 am

goddies KILL babies (if as many anti-abortion people WERE actually anti-abortion then we would have significantly MORE children with Down's-syndrome and spina-bifida; etc.)


I'm not anti-abortion per se (if you don't allow abortions, then they will happen anyway and in significantly worse conditions.) But are you saying that disabled children have less of a right to exist? Because if so then I'd have to disagree quite strongly with that sentiment.


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OtakuJo

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Report this May. 15 2012, 7:19 am

Okay I got ya. I misunderstood and so apologise. I thought for a moment that you were advocating abortion on the grounds of disability -- something which I am in fact against.


I think the most compelling pro-abortion argument is that if it were not legal, it would happen anyway. At least with legal abortions they can be significantly safer for mothers. And the only time I would even consider an abortion myself is if a pregnancy were to threaten my life (and by extension, baby's).


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