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Why No Ethnically Jewish Characters in Star Trek

Garfield-Nut

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Report this Apr. 17 2012, 6:12 am

  We know that MANY Trek actors, Shatner,Nimoy, Walter Koenig , Brent Spiner, the guys who play the Ferengi Race , Armin Shimmerman(Quark) and other Trek actors are Jewish in real life, But why NO JEWISH Fictonal characters in Any of the Star Trek, TV Series -any of them , or the movies,  Are they trying to say that the Jewish people don't exist in the Future, what happened to the Jews, was Peace made between Israeli's and Palestinians by the 23rd century, I'm NOT talking about religously Jewish, but Ethnically, like Irish, Italian, German, Jewish is ALSO an Ethnicty(blood) the Nazis killed Non-religious Jews, some have said the Federation President in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home was a Jewish Human, why no obviously Jewish Characters,  What about  Pressman from  TNG episode "Pegasus" was he Jewish

OtakuJo

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Report this Apr. 17 2012, 6:29 am

Here's the thing.


There are so many different people in Star Trek. But there are also no (definite) gays, no Aussies, and no one-legged Papua New Guinean lowlanders. And here's the other thing: If TPTB suddenly decided to have one character be a one-legged, one-eyed lesbian single mother Papua New Guinean lowlander, someone -- somewhere -- would very likely be asking "Hey why no highlanders?"


Simple enough reason why there are no Jewish characters in Star Trek: Because there just aren't. There are X number of characters in Star Trek who just happen not to be one-legged lesbian Papua.... oops I mean Jewish. If the ethnic make-up of Federation humans were truly representative of Earth, then well over half would be Asian -- and a goodly percentage of those would be from China or India. But that's not really the point of Star Trek now, is it?


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stovokor2000-A

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Report this Apr. 17 2012, 10:32 am

There was a star trek comic that featured a jcharacter of both ewish muslim decent by the name of Kamilah Goldstein.


http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Kamilah_Goldstein


 


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Garfield-Nut

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Report this Apr. 17 2012, 10:35 am

I'm talking about a Jewish Character with the "Canon" of Star Trek

stovokor2000-A

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Report this Apr. 17 2012, 10:47 am

you know that there arent any obvious examples within canon, so I cave you an example from elswhere.


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klingon jedi

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Report this Apr. 17 2012, 11:44 am

i'm not sure i can think of any episode that mentions any earthly religions... It's not just the jews, i would have liked to seen a trek holiday special at one point,(data learns the true meaning of christmas lol) but the only religions they ever mention are klingon, vulcan, or bajoran. stuff like that.

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Report this Apr. 17 2012, 12:17 pm

"Data learns the true meaning of Christmas."  PRICELESS 


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OtakuJo

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Report this Apr. 17 2012, 5:00 pm

i'm not sure i can think of any episode that mentions any earthly religions... It's not just the jews, i would have liked to seen a trek holiday special at one point,(data learns the true meaning of christmas lol) but the only religions they ever mention are klingon, vulcan, or bajoran. stuff like that.


Far Beyond the Stars has quite a few Biblical references -- although the preacher character (Brock Peters) is still connected in some way with the Prophets. But I believe the OP was referring to Jewish as an ethnicity in this case, rather than strictly Judaist. I stand by my original point that they can't include every race on the planet, and nitpicking about "Why not this" or "Why not that" is kind of missing the point of the series.


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stovokor2000-A

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Report this Apr. 17 2012, 8:19 pm


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i'm not sure i can think of any episode that mentions any earthly religions... It's not just the jews, i would have liked to seen a trek holiday special at one point,(data learns the true meaning of christmas lol) but the only religions they ever mention are klingon, vulcan, or bajoran. stuff like that.


if I remember correctly, X-mas was refranced twise, 1 time in TOS and 1 time with TNG



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klingon jedi

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Report this Apr. 17 2012, 8:40 pm

TOS i'd totally believe has one, there's still a large chunk of that series i havent seen and it does seem like that would be the crew that would do it if anyone. I dont recall a TNG christmas, was there just a small reference to it, or did they make it a main storyline for an episode? if anyone knows what season it's in, please let me know... i kinda wanna see it now 


u sure ur not thinking of the time patrick stewert starred as scrooge in a christmas carol? i dont think that counts lol

stovokor2000-A

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Report this Apr. 17 2012, 8:53 pm

Generations.


We see a christmas tree in the Picard family home.


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klingon jedi

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Report this Apr. 17 2012, 9:01 pm

good call, i forgot all about that scene!!  It's no Santa-Q, but it was definately a christmas reference. i'll take it.

stovokor2000-A

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Report this Apr. 17 2012, 9:03 pm

also in Enterprise, Tucker made a refrance to an x-ms tree in "Regenaration"


 The Wrath of Khan, Scotty said the energisers of the Enterprise "bypassed like a Christmas tree."


The Q known as Quin turned Voyager into a x-mas tree decoration and the ship was hung on a tree


theres quite a few more I could post from Voyager and DS9


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klingon jedi

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Report this Apr. 17 2012, 9:31 pm

ok, ok, i give... i was apparently way off on star trek lacking christmas lol, but i still wish i could have seen a completely holiday based episode. how fun would it have been to see worf dressed up like an elf?

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Report this Apr. 17 2012, 9:58 pm

Because Gene Roddenberry was adamant right from the beginning about leaving religion out of the picture as much as possible.


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