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TNG Worf was the chief of security ever...

Broadstorm

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Report this Apr. 19 2012, 3:04 am

Well, obviously we are going to continue to disagree on "step aside" meaning get out of the way or more in the way than you already were.


So are you saying that being off duty makes it okay to purposely endanger someone you are supposed to protect when you are on duty?

klingon jedi

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Report this Apr. 19 2012, 5:20 am

i wonder if it has anything to do with rodenberry's view for a perfect future that made the security chiefs not quite as relevant as they would later become in ds9 voy and ent, when they were free to explore a darker image of the future. there's a definite distinction between TOS and TNG security (sulu, tasha, and worf) and the later chiefs of security (tuvok, odo, and reed)


 

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Report this Apr. 19 2012, 9:08 am

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Well, obviously we are going to continue to disagree on "step aside" meaning get out of the way or more in the way than you already were.


So are you saying that being off duty makes it okay to purposely endanger someone you are supposed to protect when you are on duty?


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being simply "off duty" is a different thing then what was going on.The situation at had had political implications for 2 super powers at at the same time ,deep and personal consequences for Worf himself.   Worf needed the help of someone he could trust to navigate both the physical dangers, and the political ones.


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Broadstorm

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Report this Apr. 19 2012, 3:29 pm

Maybe, but I seriously doubt any of the other security officers would ask their captains to step in front of a blade while all they could do is stand by and watch.  If they did, I would question their place, too.

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Report this Apr. 19 2012, 4:34 pm

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Then again, Riker is tougher than Worf. In "Conspiracy," Riker fights admiral what's-his-name, and lasts a good amount of time. Worf enters, and is knocked out almost immediately.


In "Rascals," Worf completely misses a Ferengi 20 feet away. Despite this, he can fire an old western gun (of much less accuracy than a phasor) and hit the hand of someone standing more than 20 feet away. I guess Worf was having a bad day in Rascals or got extremely lucky in Fistful of Datas. (based on evidence in different parts of the series, I'm betting on the latter option.)


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Report this Apr. 19 2012, 8:51 pm

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Maybe, but I seriously doubt any of the other security officers would ask their captains to step in front of a blade while all they could do is stand by and watch.  If they did, I would question their place, too.


 


I see your point, but from what I recall, Tuvok asked Janeway to particapate in a "possible" dangerous mind meld..........so Worf is hardly the only one to have done a few questionable things


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klingon jedi

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Report this Apr. 19 2012, 8:53 pm

"Prune juice, a warriors drink!"  LMAO!!!

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Report this Apr. 20 2012, 4:42 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nqb-o1ub54


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edflm7Hh3hs&feature=related

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Report this Apr. 20 2012, 9:17 pm

Oh there's many good things you can say about Worf.  He was brave and fought well.  He was loyal and protective.  And his ideas are being shot down because he's also a hot head who thinks fighting is the answer to everything.  It has it's purpose, but sometimes you have to be diplomatic.  And he was REALLY cool in First Contact.


~ the Wannabe Star Trek Engineer ~

klingon jedi

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Report this Apr. 20 2012, 11:02 pm

first contact, eh?  aint that the one where picard straight calls him a coward to his face?


 


actually i take that back, i just started season 7 of ds9 and i kinda feel bad for the guy...  im done picking on worf for a day or two lol

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Report this Apr. 23 2012, 6:25 pm

Worf is a Klingon aboard a primarily human starship.  When asked his opinion his responce is that of a warrior!!!  He wants to attack....!!! The captain is more reserved and usually backs away from Worfs suggestions... This is why Worf is usually "punked" (what ever the hell that means) when asked his opinion...

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Report this May. 05 2012, 3:03 pm

I love this thread! I totally agree with the first comment- considoring Worfs postion as security chief I always have a chuckle that picard 90% ignores what worf advises- And he pretty much gets his ass kicked! I recently got my partner into TNG never before had he watched Star Trek now on season 5 (for me the 100th time) the first thing he picked up on was worf and how he is mostly disregarded opinion wise

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Report this May. 22 2012, 7:38 am

since Tasha die, Worf get more attention

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Report this May. 22 2012, 7:43 am

Worf really did get better the further into the series you got.


Seasons 1-3 he was snarling, growling, and yeah.. walking into doors. Finally at least he started some character devolopment when the writers decided he didn't have to be a complete barbarian to still be Klingon.


Just imagine Garak trying to talk TNG season 2 Worf into joining Starfleet Academy. DS9 Worf just snorted disdainfully and let it roll by, early TNG Worf probably would have gone berserk.


Never did like the Worf/Dax coupling in DS9, but hey... one got over it.


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