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TNG Worf was the chief of security ever...

klingon jedi

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Report this Apr. 17 2012, 1:45 am

It seems like every time he's in an episode he either gets punked out, shot, or some other dishonorable thing is happening to him. Someone else gets the bad guy, and his tactical suggestions are constantly shot down by the captain in favor whatever riker, data, or laforge's idea happens to be. If it wasn't for the time he spent on DS9 I dont think I'd have any respect for him at all.

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Report this Apr. 17 2012, 4:58 am

TNG Worf was the chief of security ever...


ever what?


DS9 RULES!!!!!

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Report this Apr. 17 2012, 7:46 am

Worf was relegated to the background for a lot of TNG and not a lot of attention given to the development of his character. So it's kind of little wonder that you feel that way.


But I'm with Hugues -- I could guess, but what exactly is your thread title trying to say?


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Report this Apr. 17 2012, 8:27 pm

what?


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Report this Apr. 17 2012, 8:46 pm

Let's not forget about him walking into doors.

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Report this Apr. 18 2012, 12:10 am

This is why he was given DS9 i think... but yeah


He was Tactical Officer on DS9, not Security.


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klingon jedi

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Report this Apr. 18 2012, 10:45 am

exactly, someone else almost always had to get the job done, it's almost like worf was just a running joke lol


I've always been a fan of Tuvok and Odo, when they got going it almost had a law n order cop show kinda vibe to it, both were very good detectives. I never got that feeling when worf was on the case.


reed vs the makos was classic

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Report this Apr. 18 2012, 1:02 pm

As you said, Worf wasn't supposed to be the Chief of Security, originally; Tasha Yar was.  Then, she got killed, and Worf was promoted.


However, I think he was the best Chief of Security ever--except, perhaps for Lonnoc Kedair, the Takarian on the USS Aventine.  Worf was always loyal to Picard (except in some personal matters, perhaps), and he was doing his job, to make those protective suggestions in the conferences.  Picard wanted everyone to have his/her say, and Worf performed his job consistently.  It was always the Captain's final say, anyway.


I would be honored to serve with Worf any time, anywhere.


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Report this Apr. 18 2012, 3:43 pm

Worf was named acting security chief in Skin of Evil, and remained in red for the rest of the season, but from the beginning of season 2, there was no mention of "acting" and he was in yellow.  There are some things that bother me about him being security chief.  Just a few episodes before Yar died, he disobeyed a direct order from Yar when she ordered him to step away from the Klingons rescued from another ship.  That insubordination in what was obviously a security matter as she was there with a team of several security personnel could have cost lives.  Later on, in Sins of the Father, when Worf is not allowed to fight under any circumstances, he reverses things & asks Picard, aka the captain he is supposed to protect, to fight for him.  He repeatedly displayed divided loyalties between his job & his species, as just about every TNG episode that focused on the Klingons played around with the fragile alliance.

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Report this Apr. 18 2012, 3:59 pm

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Just a few episodes before Yar died, he disobeyed a direct order from Yar when she ordered him to step away from the Klingons rescued from another ship.  That insubordination in what was obviously a security matter as she was there with a team of several security personnel could have cost lives.


actully I dont see any insubordination in that case.


Yar orderred him to step aside..............and he did.He took about 3 steps twards Yar and asked what was wrong.


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Report this Apr. 18 2012, 4:06 pm

I seem to recall him just standing there looking at her, then at them.

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Report this Apr. 18 2012, 4:15 pm

re-watch the episode.


he steps away...........not very far mind you, but far enough away so at it can be argued he followed orders.


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Report this Apr. 18 2012, 4:37 pm

I found a clip on Youtube since I dont have access to watch the episode right now.  Yar orders him to "step aside" to which he responds by placing himself between the security team & the fugitives.  Then he does as I described earlier.  Even more in the way is not aside.

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Report this Apr. 18 2012, 4:56 pm

I watched the same clip, and I'll repeat what I said in my first reply.


"Yar orderred him to step aside..............and he did.He took about 3 steps twards Yar and asked what was wrong."


they were in a tight small corridor, Worf had the option of stepping into the alcove of the turbolift, but that would have seemed cowardly.


He followed orders, he steped to the side


 


 


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Report this Apr. 18 2012, 5:03 pm

while we're on the topic.............


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  Later on, in Sins of the Father, when Worf is not allowed to fight under any circumstances, he reverses things & asks Picard, aka the captain he is supposed to protect, to fight for him.


I dont see wshats exactly wrong here.


He wasnt asking his captain to fight..........he was asking his friend and person he trusted most of asll for help.In that case they were civiliasns, not officers.


 


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