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A Question about "Mirror Mirror"

juliansgirl7

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Report this Apr. 10 2012, 6:10 pm

At the beginning of the episode, when Kirk and company beamed into the alternate universe, how did they end up in their counterparts' clothes?


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Report this Apr. 10 2012, 6:30 pm

I don't know if there is an official explanation of this, but it would seem that only their minds were transposed with their counterparts unlike the DS9 epsiodes in which they physically crossover, and both versions can actually meet each other.

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Report this Apr. 10 2012, 8:00 pm

No, I think they physically crossed over but the writers left out the costume issue so that Kirk and company can blend in otherwise Mirror Spock would have confined them just our Spock confined the Mirror group


 


I had some time to think this over


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Report this Apr. 11 2012, 6:32 am

Just bad writng...


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Report this Apr. 11 2012, 10:29 pm

It's still bad writing since there was no explanation given as how this could happen.


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Report this Apr. 11 2012, 10:41 pm

Quote: Hugues @ Apr. 11 2012, 10:29 pm

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>It's still bad writing since there was no explanation given as how this could happen.

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Or perhaps they thought that intellegent people know it's not real and therfore require no explanation.


Just use your imagination, that's what it's there for.


 


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Report this Apr. 12 2012, 4:48 am

Quote: Beershark @ Apr. 11 2012, 10:41 pm

Quote: Hugues @ Apr. 11 2012, 10:29 pm

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>It's still bad writing since there was no explanation given as how this could happen.

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Or perhaps they thought that intellegent people know it's not real and therfore require no explanation.

Just use your imagination, that's what it's there for.

 


Intelligent people notice when something is wrong, they ask questions and want answers. Only stupid people accept everything without question and/or explanation.


And yes, i know it's not real (that makes me intelligent, yes?). But it still has to make some sense, even some pseudo scientific explanation would be acceptable, elseway i better watch Sesame Street.


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Report this Apr. 12 2012, 11:20 am

Presumably, only their bodies crossed over. Exactly why wasn't explained.


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Report this Apr. 15 2012, 4:49 pm

Interesting debate on this point.  


Thats the interesting part of fictional literature -- by definition the author is expecting (or hoping) the reader will participate in a willing suspension of disbelief.  That doesn't mean a reader doesn't ask questions about the story that is presented but it does mean the reader eventually has to decidewhether to take the story that is presented on IT'S terms and not your own.  Sometimes good writing leads to debate and discussion.  The great thing about "Mirror, Mirror" is that the writer presented scientific theory that was not widely known at the time and presented it in an extremely entertaining way that forced the characters in that story to think & improvise in a new way.  I enjoy the episode to this day and think its better served to present the landing party in alternate uniforms w/out an explanation.  Technobabble for the sake of technobabble wouldn't have added to that story.  It's possibe the author made the tactical decision in writing the story to say "what's important is the crisis the landing party is in....not the uniforms they are wearing when they arrive".   Does that make it bad writing?  Maybe, maybe not.  It's an interesting debate that shows the overall depth & complexity of Star Trek writing.  Thx for the discussion!

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Report this Apr. 16 2012, 10:28 pm

Still is bad writing.....


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Report this Apr. 17 2012, 8:29 pm

I wouldnt call it bad writting.


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Report this Apr. 18 2012, 2:10 pm

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I wonder what would have happened if thay did keep their origonal clothes.


I guess they'd have had to bluff it out then go to their quarters and change - it wouldn't have made any big difference except cast suspicion on them a little quicker - it's obviously done for the plot but compared to the holes in 'The City on the Edge of Absurdity', it's pretty small beer really ;-)

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Report this Apr. 19 2012, 4:58 am

Quote: stovokor2000-A @ Apr. 17 2012, 8:29 pm

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>I wouldnt call it bad writting.

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Don't want to repeat myself, but ....


i would call it bad writing.


Damn, i did repeat myself.


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Report this May. 03 2012, 8:39 pm

 


I think that they 'transposed" bodies when they entered into the Mirror Universe (as opposed to transported).


When characters transport, they remain the same people whose molecules are scrambled and reassembled at the location they transported to, including the clothes they were wearing.


But Kirk and crew did not transport into the Mirror Universe.


When Kirk and crew crossed over into the Mirror Universe, they sort of exchanged lives with their counterparts.  So they became Mirror Universe versions of themselves, but with their original memories.  They always had the drive to get back to their original lives, as did their counterparts.


Kirk and the gang's Mirror Universe counterparts were exactly the same in body, that is why the clothes fit.  The slight physical appearance differences in the Mirror Universe crew were based on differently led lives, hence Spock's beard and Sulu's scar. (of course, these differences also helped the viewer distinguish who was from what universe...ha, ha)


Does anybody think this is a little wacky, or does it explain anything?  This is what I had always thought, that is why I never questioned the change of clothing.  

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Report this May. 03 2012, 8:44 pm

so, for lack of a better way to put it, your suggesting that thery traded souls or personas with their mirror counterparts??


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