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Why does everyone who doesn't love Star Trek think its nerdy?

deannastartreker

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Report this Apr. 01 2012, 1:57 pm

When someone asks me what i like and i tell them i like Star Trek, they immediately call me a nerd, turn around and walk off, then laugh at me when i see them again. Why is that?

ColPeg

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Report this Apr. 01 2012, 3:50 pm

Yes, being a fan may have the perspective of one beinga nerd -


one who really thinks about what they're watching.


Star Trek was ment to be more than entertaining but to allow the viewers to think, to dream, to use their imaginations, and to understand the human condition.


Non-nerds are just into entertainment - which is what star wars and the last movie that considered itself *star trek* were all about.


"If Man is to survive, he will have learned to take delight in the essential difference between people and cultures" -Gene Roddenberry -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Col. P. A. Stevens CO, USS Code Talker NCC-1195

flottanna

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Report this Apr. 01 2012, 11:22 pm

Yea who care's what other people think. We love it and that's all that matters


 


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OtakuJo

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Report this Apr. 02 2012, 6:39 am

Because it is nerdy.


Gloriously, wonderfully, splendiferously nerdy!


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Fun123fun8

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Report this Apr. 02 2012, 9:00 am

I like being a nerd


in my orchestra class 3 of my buddys and I we have this little group.


And i told them I was a trekkie one of them were laughing and pointing at me yelling nerd(she play violin)! but then my fellow cello (I play cello) he stood up and said he was a trekkie and I mean a true one like waches the shows and stuff like us. That was the day when I was a bit closer to my fellow cello and the day I joined star trek.com  ( EDIT: OMG before i made this post I was a ensign becuse of this post im a lieutenant!!! YAY! )


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TheDriver

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Report this Apr. 02 2012, 9:35 am

I still don't get this whole ranking system, but I really can't bring myself to care.


Anyway, I think Star Trek itself is not seen as being that nerdy.


The truly obsessive fans, however, are what have given Star Trek it's bad/nerdy stigma. I mean, just watch the documentaries Trekkies and Trekkies 2. While there are a few inspirational stories in those films (the girl who admits that "Kira as role model" saved her from committing suicide comes to mind), most of the sequences focus on some people I would NEVER want to come in contact with...


And I am a Trek fan! Ha.


Even the infamous "get a life" SNL skit with Shatner focused on the fans, rather than the show itself. For some reason, Star Trek really pulls in the whackjobs and the socially awkward (or as the one kid from Trekkies admits in Trekkies 2, the "socially oblivious").


Just look at The Big Bang Theory; it's mega-popular. Mainstream fans of the show like to laugh at the silly nerds. But nerds? For some reason, they find the show gives them some sort of legitimacy! Sheesh...


*shaking head*


In another thread, I explained why my intense knowledge of Star Trek really isn't shared with anyone else... Not because I'm embarrassed by Trek, but because I'm such a hardcore fan.


Yeah, I just don't think my friends, girlfriends, family, and colleagues would get it.


Or they'd "get" the wrong message. Unfortunately.


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TheDriver

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Report this Apr. 02 2012, 9:42 am

Just fyi, I live by the old adage "For everything in life, there is a time and a place."


So I talk about Star Trek here. In this place.



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FleetAdmiral_BamBam

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Report this Apr. 02 2012, 12:20 pm

Many people think "Science Fiction" is "nerdy" because of the technical aspect of it.

Vger23

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Report this Apr. 02 2012, 12:38 pm

Quote: ColPeg @ Apr. 01 2012, 3:50 pm

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>Yes, being a fan may have the perspective of one beinga nerd -

>one who really thinks about what they're watching.

>Star Trek was ment to be more than entertaining but to allow the viewers to think, to dream, to use their imaginations, and to understand the human condition.

>Non-nerds are just into entertainment - which is what star wars and the last movie that considered itself *star trek* were all about.

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I disagree with this statement completely. As a fan for almost 35 years...I'm here to tell you guys, THIS kind of elitist "our show is better than your stupid shows" answer is exactly WHY people think Star Trek and its fans are nerdy.


It's this nose-in-the-air attitude that drives other people away at warp speed. For a show that is really about the strength of diversity...we have some of the most elitist and exclusive fans on the planet. It's really quite frustrating.


Here's the other thing I'm going to make sure is absolutely clear: Star Trek is NOT THAT INTELLIGENT, kids. It's essentially an outer-space adventure show with varying degrees of quality ranging from classic and brilliant to downright horrible and everything in between. Sure, there are some great episodes...and the original series in particular challenged cultural norms and used a lot of allegory to tell morality tales about taboo current events, but other than that...it is a sci-fi advernture franchise.


"Intelligent" science fiction is


2001: A Space Odyssey


Bladerunner


Solaris


Metropolis


...and pretty much anything by Philip K. Dick


 


Those elements are WAY out of Star Trek's league.


But, this whole "people don't like Star Trek because they are part of the drooling idiot masses" thing REALLY pushes my buttons. It's simply not true. In my experience, people shy away from Trek more because of the fans than because of the show itself. And that's why Star Trek became less and less successful the more they tried to cater to the fans rather than simply being good entertainment.  


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Report this Apr. 02 2012, 1:09 pm

Because it's science fiction. Then again Star Trek has become a religion to those who are serious hard core fans even though Gene Rodenberry never intended it to be a religion but only for entertainment purposes as stated by Brent Spiner in an interview.

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Report this Apr. 02 2012, 1:32 pm

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Yeah kind of like NASCAR for those fans, or WWF for those idiots.... I mean fans 


LOL if I had to choose between Nascar and WWF I'd rather choose Nascar lol Even though I am not a fan of either of them.


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Report this Apr. 02 2012, 1:39 pm

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LOL if I had to choose between Nascar and WWF I'd rather choose Nascar lol Even though I am not a fan of either of them.

(of course she quotes Spinerman )

I wish i could watch Nascar more, but every time its on im busy. I love cars!


I can't watch it because it's on cable.


OtakuJo

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Report this Apr. 02 2012, 2:32 pm

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"It's this nose-in-the-air attitude that drives other people away at warp speed. For a show that is really about the strength of diversity...we have some of the most elitist and exclusive fans on the planet. It's really quite frustrating."


Unfortunate, but yes, there is an element of that at times.


Fortunately, the vast majority of Star Trek fans also really enjoy many other different series.


Fortunately also I think the strength of Star Trek is that it does have that variety -- from brainless, fun entertainment to the truly thought provoking. I'm sure anyone here can think of examples of both.


My advice to the OP would be that ok, people may laugh. But there's no reason you should care.


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Report this Apr. 02 2012, 5:32 pm

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Yeah kind of like NASCAR for those fans, or WWF for those idiots.... I mean fans 


I like WWE ...   but I love star trek even more!


when people look down at me because im a trekkie i always rember Lady Data's signiture


 "Because you are different. Differences sometimes scare people. I have learned that some of them use humor to hide their fear."~ Data


it makes me feel better


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spockdatadax

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Report this Apr. 02 2012, 7:44 pm

It's FUN being a nerd! Nothing wrong with it! I love the science fiction genre. Always have. Those other people who tease just don't care for time-travel, galaxy-exploring, crazy aliens, etc. They don't understand why we find it so FASCINATING. (BTW, Metropolis --both the movie and the novel by Fritz's wife-- are absolutely ground-breaking!)


My family teases me about being a nerd. But come Christmas and birthdays, they're the ones who give me Star Trek and Star Wars gifts!! Hurray for me!


"deannastartreker".... please just ignore those rude people. They have nothing better to do than to make fun of others. Your time should be spent enjoying Star Trek, not worrying about horrible people.

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