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The Strange Case of Trayvon Martin

caltrek2

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Report this Apr. 07 2012, 12:04 pm

http://news.discovery.com/tech/george-zimmerman-voice-recognition-120404.html


http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-31/news/os-trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-911-20120331_1_voice-identification-expert-reasonable-scientific-certainty


 After listening to recordings of 911 calls Friday night, the family of a black teenager fatally shot by a white neighborhood watch volunteer say they're convinced now more than ever that the shooter should be charged.


 


Click here to listen to the 911 recordings on CBS affiliate WKMG


Attorney Benjamin Crump, who is representing the family, told reporters that 17-year-old Trayvon Martin's parents both broke down and cried as they listened to the 911 recordings.


"They are completely devastated, are they are in unbelievable grief," Crump said.


Police agreed to release the recordings on Friday. Martin's parents previously sued to have the recordings released. A hearing for the case was scheduled for Monday.


Officials released a total of seven 911 calls. All of the callers described a single shot.


"There is somebody screaming outside," one female caller said, as an unknown male voice can be heard crying in the background. Then a shot is heard.


A male caller described a physical altercation between Martin and the shooter.


"I just heard a shot right behind my house," the caller said. "They're wrestling right behind my porch. The guy is yelling 'Help.' I'm not going outside."


Martin was carrying a drink and candy when George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch captain, called 911 to report a suspicious man, authorities said.


CNN reports the 911 dispatcher told Zimmerman not to confront the man, but by the time police arrived, Martin lay dead with a gunshot wound in the chest, according to Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee.


"Hurry please ... there's someone screaming outside," a neighbor whispers on another 911 recording. "There's a gunshot, hurry up ... there's someone screaming. I just heard a gunshot."


In another call, a woman begs the dispatchers to send help, saying someone is "screaming and hollering" for help.


Martin's parents, Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton, accused Sanford police of botching the investigation and criticized them for not arresting Zimmerman, who says he shot Martin in self-defense. Martin was not armed and his parents say the police department hasn't arrested Zimmerman because he is white and their son was black.


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57399800-504083/911-calls-released-in-trayvon-martin-fatal-shooting/


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Report this Apr. 07 2012, 8:44 pm

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Quote: chr33355 @ Apr. 06 2012, 11:36 am

Quote: caltrek2 @ Apr. 05 2012, 5:48 am

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>caltrek: Look, I am enough of an anarchist to say, "sure, let Zimmerman walk. Just don't pretend that any thing remotely resembling justice has transpired here"...and don't pretend that Zimmerman was part of a "well regulated militia".

>Invader_Wishfire: I don't see anyone saying either of those.

>caltrek: I meant "justice" in the sense of retribution, not in the sense of whether or not it is right that Trayvon is dead.

>"Well regulated militia" refers to the Second Amendment. Do you agree that bearing of arms should be regulated by government, or don't you?

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. No because of the second half, and often ignored by liberals, of the second amendment the RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
Well... you know the ProRegressives....  They completely ignore what's actually written in the Constitution and redefine it to meet their own anti-American agenda.

 

"No freeman shall ever be debarred the use of arms."  -- Thomas Jefferson.

Something else I'll add..... Forty-three state constitutions have specific references protecting citizen's rights to self-defense. (In the other seven states, the right is protected statutorily.)

Just got this in an e-mail today:



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Report this Apr. 07 2012, 8:55 pm

Quote: Vicsage @ Apr. 07 2012, 11:19 am

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>Other than following a person who seemed suspicious when the police told him not to, what else did Zimmerman do wrong  (up to the shooting)?  And if the story is true that Trayvon confronted him, punched him in the nose,  and began smashing his skull on the pavement, I think he was justified in feeling his life was at risk.  Trayvon, on the other hand, had many options.  He could have outrun this overweight guy with no trouble at all.  Most people would tend to run from people they are scared of, especially if it is obvious they couldn't catch you.  Trayvon had a phone.  He could have called the police.  I believe the attack occurred around 7 PM.  I don't know if there were any stores or places where there were people gathered that he could have gone to, to wait for the police.  He could have at least gone back to the store he bought his SKittles at.  Granted, a person shouldn't have to run and hide, but he sure didn't act like someone scared. 

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Many people were never taught to escape, evade, cover and conceal (although instinct builds that in) - but when some people get scared, they don't think and act rationally.....  actually, many people don't think and act rationally on a normal basis... let alone an emergency situation. 


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Report this Apr. 12 2012, 11:13 am

Quote: Vicsage @ Apr. 07 2012, 11:19 am

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>Other than following a person who seemed suspicious when the police told him not to, what else did Zimmerman do wrong  (up to the shooting)?  And if the story is true that Trayvon confronted him, punched him in the nose,  and began smashing his skull on the pavement, I think he was justified in feeling his life was at risk.  Trayvon, on the other hand, had many options.  He could have outrun this overweight guy with no trouble at all.  Most people would tend to run from people they are scared of, especially if it is obvious they couldn't catch you.  Trayvon had a phone.  He could have called the police.  I believe the attack occurred around 7 PM.  I don't know if there were any stores or places where there were people gathered that he could have gone to, to wait for the police.  He could have at least gone back to the store he bought his SKittles at.  Granted, a person shouldn't have to run and hide, but he sure didn't act like someone scared. 

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I am around Zimmermans weight, guess what? I can out run a number of other people who weigh less. you forget the fight or flight response that is hard wired in us. Worse is that you ignore the evidence that shows very little injury to zimmerman. no broken nose, and next to no evidence of head injuries. Zimmerman chased someone down after being told not to. that is wrong. Martin had few opitions, he had no clue as to why some one was following him considering he was doing nothing wrong. Doing anything else other than continuing to walk home could have set the guy following him off. Plus Martin did have the right to ask the person following him why he was being followed.


SYG laws work both ways, If zimmerman can feel threatened, so can Martin.


Let there be pants.

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Report this Apr. 12 2012, 2:18 pm

What I want to know is where is all the "street justice" with the black person who just killed the unarmed mentally disabled white hispanic male in Phoenix a few days ago????  Why are the police protecting the killer and not releasing his name?


Where is Al Sharpton screaming "No Justice, No Peace"????


Where is the Black Panthers calling for a race war???  Where are their "Wanted Dead" posters?  (And why didn't the Department of Justice address this???)


And why is the lamestream propoganda machine completely ignoring, not only that killing, but the similarities between the two cases?


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Report this Apr. 12 2012, 2:34 pm

Quote: SSFPhoenix @ Apr. 12 2012, 11:13 am

Quote: Vicsage @ Apr. 07 2012, 11:19 am

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>Other than following a person who seemed suspicious when the police told him not to, what else did Zimmerman do wrong  (up to the shooting)?  And if the story is true that Trayvon confronted him, punched him in the nose,  and began smashing his skull on the pavement, I think he was justified in feeling his life was at risk.  Trayvon, on the other hand, had many options.  He could have outrun this overweight guy with no trouble at all.  Most people would tend to run from people they are scared of, especially if it is obvious they couldn't catch you.  Trayvon had a phone.  He could have called the police.  I believe the attack occurred around 7 PM.  I don't know if there were any stores or places where there were people gathered that he could have gone to, to wait for the police.  He could have at least gone back to the store he bought his SKittles at.  Granted, a person shouldn't have to run and hide, but he sure didn't act like someone scared. 

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I am around Zimmermans weight, guess what? I can out run a number of other people who weigh less. you forget the fight or flight response that is hard wired in us. Worse is that you ignore the evidence that shows very little injury to zimmerman. no broken nose, and next to no evidence of head injuries. Zimmerman chased someone down after being told not to. that is wrong. Martin had few opitions, he had no clue as to why some one was following him considering he was doing nothing wrong. Doing anything else other than continuing to walk home could have set the guy following him off. Plus Martin did have the right to ask the person following him why he was being followed.

SYG laws work both ways, If zimmerman can feel threatened, so can Martin.

 So what you are saying is that Martin, a member of a football team, could not out run a man becuase you can out run people that are lighter than you?  And it is true that Martin did have SYG in his favor if he confronted Zimmerman while zimmerman was still following him.


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Report this Apr. 12 2012, 2:49 pm

I am around Zimmermans weight, guess what? I can out run a number of other people who weigh less. you forget the fight or flight response that is hard wired in us.


You keep bringing that up as if it proves anything, but we still haven't seen any indication of what Zimmerman's own physical condition was like.


Worse is that you ignore the evidence that shows very little injury to zimmerman. no broken nose,


According to who? You? It's interesting how no paramedic that examined him has come forward and said as much.


and next to no evidence of head injuries.


Other than the obvious head injuries?


Zimmerman chased someone down after being told not to.


Evidence suggests that no, he didn't.


Martin had few opitions, he had no clue as to why some one was following him considering he was doing nothing wrong.


So why didn't he call 911 as well?


Doing anything else other than continuing to walk home could have set the guy following him off.


Highly unlikely, since Zimmerman didn't know where Martin was after he stopped following him. If you don't know where someone is, chances are you don't know what they're doing, either.


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Report this Apr. 21 2012, 10:34 am

It's interesting that I've noticed all the hate around this one incident, but those same people seem to be okay with the multiple incidents the other way around, like http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/crime/alton-hayes-trayvon-martin-white-man-attacked-black-racist-racism-maywood-chicago-suburb-20120420...


The duplicity is astounding.


This idiocy of hatred due to someone else having a different pigmentation is beyond stupid.


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Report this Apr. 22 2012, 2:08 pm

Common Sense: http://video.foxnews.com/v/1571946506001/should-african-americans-arm-themselves/?playlist_id=87262


 


Learned that MLK sought a license to get a gun, but he was denied due to his pigmentation. 


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Report this Apr. 24 2012, 10:59 am

And another one that the ProRegressives are silent about.....


"Justice For Trayvon" ??????


Justice for Trayvon: Alabama Man in Critical Condition After Mob Beating | Matthew Owens | Mobile


 


http://www2.wkrg.com/news/2012/apr/23/17/man-beaten-mob-critical-condition-ar-3659891/


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Report this Apr. 24 2012, 12:10 pm

and arrests are pending. 


 


are you suggesting somehow this and 50 year old incidents somehow mean the martin case has no importance?

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Report this Apr. 24 2012, 2:46 pm

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>and arrests are pending. 

>are you suggesting somehow this and 50 year old incidents somehow mean the martin case has no importance?

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I'm pointing out the duplicity of the left.  Each case is important, but for some reason, the left has already convicted Zimmerman in the press/public because he's "white" and Trayvon was "black", calling it "street justice", and they are very strangely silent when the situation is not only reversed - but the people in the situation supposedly admitted it had to do with people's pigmentation and retaliation.  And the public speakers are screaming and stirring up more and more hatred - all based on color.  (Notice Obama talks about Trayvon, but none of the backlash?)  If we don't have equal laws and justice for each person, then there will no justice for anyone. 


If people can't look at each other as human beings with their own rights, there will only be an escalation of this violence.  (Remember the LA riots?)


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Report this Apr. 24 2012, 2:49 pm

so it is a leftist plot is it?  couldn't just be the media runs with what it thinks will sell?  and don't forget, this case wasn't news for several weeks after it actually happened and has built steam since then. 


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Report this Apr. 24 2012, 2:52 pm

Quote: wissa @ Apr. 24 2012, 2:49 pm

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>so it is a leftist plot is it?  couldn't just be the media runs with what it thinks will sell?  and don't forget, this case wasn't news for several weeks after it actually happened and has built steam since then. 

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Uhh.... the media is left.  But even if we discount the media, how about Al Sharpton and his minions?  Or the Black Panthers?  Or ... just name whatever group was screaming "No Justice, No Peace" and threatening Zimmerman.


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Report this Apr. 24 2012, 4:22 pm

that is just a sideshow to the actual event itself.  None of it is relevent when it comes to zimmerman's guilt or innocence.


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