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Season 5 What did you think of it?

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Matthias Russell

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Report this Mar. 19 2012, 12:29 pm

The series introduced some new and interesting gameplay and maps.  The prison map and DS9 exterior were a lot of fun.  I also liked the improvement to non-combat side missions and use of diplomacy. 


However, it was very glitchy for me and the writing was terrible.  With each series, the writing gets worse.  The involvement of the Dominion and Founder was pointless as they contributed nothing to the resolution.  The Jem Hadar alpha seemed to always be doing things without the concent of his Vorta; it made no sense that he kept acting independantly and that the Vorta was accepted back into the fold whereas the Jem Hadar alpha was not. 


The Bajorans not wanting the starfleet evacuees on Bajor made no sense considering the planet is now a Federation world and most of the refugees were probably Bajoran. 


Why did I have to take a shuttle to the Gamma Quadrant?  I was detected anyway so the use of stealth made no sense.  And anyone could look out a window and spot a shuttle just as easily as a small ship.  Then I enter an asteroid slightly bigger than my shuttle but a Ferengi Maurader can fit in there!?!


I enjoyed the time I spent playing but STO really needs some better writers on staff.


Mitchz95

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Report this Mar. 19 2012, 3:26 pm

Keep in mind that Kar'ukan wasn't the first Jem'Hadar to rebel against the Founders. Remember "To the Death" and "Hippocratic Oath"?


And when I was replaying OG a few days ago, I found another entrance to the asteroid that the Kranek might have fit through.


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J Kirk In Texas

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Report this Mar. 19 2012, 8:37 pm

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Mar. 19 2012, 12:29 pm

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>The series introduced some new and interesting gameplay and maps.  The prison map and DS9 exterior were a lot of fun.  I also liked the improvement to non-combat side missions and use of diplomacy. 

>However, it was very glitchy for me and the writing was terrible.  With each series, the writing gets worse.  The involvement of the Dominion and Founder was pointless as they contributed nothing to the resolution.  The Jem Hadar alpha seemed to always be doing things without the concent of his Vorta; it made no sense that he kept acting independantly and that the Vorta was accepted back into the fold whereas the Jem Hadar alpha was not. 

>The Bajorans not wanting the starfleet evacuees on Bajor made no sense considering the planet is now a Federation world and most of the refugees were probably Bajoran. 

>Why did I have to take a shuttle to the Gamma Quadrant?  I was detected anyway so the use of stealth made no sense.  And anyone could look out a window and spot a shuttle just as easily as a small ship.  Then I enter an asteroid slightly bigger than my shuttle but a Ferengi Maurader can fit in there!?!

>I enjoyed the time I spent playing but STO really needs some better writers on staff.

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Granted, this might not be the best season but like Mitch pointed out there could be some cannonal answers. In addition to what he said, it is understandable that some of Bajor might not want non-bajorans. I mean there was the “Circle” episode, and there were still cults on Vulcan in the late next generation that didn't want non-Vulcan’s on their planet. And after the Zindi conflict aliens were hated on earth. People can become xenophobic easy. But anyways, granted this is not a perfect season. Why would they not hate them on DS9 and then on Bajor? That may be a problem. And why were they wearing the new dominion wear and not the stuff from their period? Those seem to be problems but maybe there are explanations for those. Who knows. :/



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Report this Mar. 20 2012, 9:04 am

My biggest issue is still that episodes 3 and 4 were useless.  Contacting the Dominion and rescuing the Founder contributed nothing to the resolution of the conflict.  Karukan had no respect for the Founder, and how did his Vorta not know in episode 5 that in episode 4, Karukan had made contact with and tried to kill a founder?  I feel like I wasted my time in those two episodes when I should have just taken my shuttle to DS9, EVA on the station to OPS and kill Karukan then.  We could have saved some time, trouble, and lives.


And I didn't like that after you fight Karukan, he beams out, there is a space battle, and then you don't know what ship he is on and you get no final words from him.  At least I got to see the Romulan boss from the Reman series die though it was bad writing to have no final words.  I don't know when or if Karukan was finally killed!  It was terribly anticlimatic.


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Report this Mar. 20 2012, 9:41 am


True what happened might have ended up useless. But the federation was trusted that the dominion would be able to stop them but they didn't. And it was obvious that the he had no respect for the dominion. Like the other ones that rebelled. Granted it might have been easier to just do that. But as in deep space nine it would have just been easier for the federation not to back the cardasians for that period they did and just have attacked them with the klingons did. But at least to what I observed, we all make mistakes. And doing things that seem useless later show us that we are all human and make mistakes and that we can't be expected to know what is right to do. But that is my opinion. But granted, no epic end to the bad guy, it sounded like he didn't die, yet you did destroy all the ships. So it is a little counter intuitive.



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Report this Mar. 20 2012, 11:40 am

I understand that episodes 3 and 4 could have resulted in benefits but didn't.  That is reality for you, but not particularly good story. 


If Karukan had no respect for the Dominion, when did this happen?  When he disappeared in the wormhole 30 years ago, he would have been a loyal soldier.  He changed that quickly?  The Vorta didn't accept the evidence for the Dominion surrender in episode 2 but did when it was presented by a founder.  If the founder rejected Karukan for his failure to arrive on time, why didn't she reject his Vorta handler as well?  If the founder had sharp words of denunciation for the Jem Hadar alpha, you would think she would denounce the Vorta leading the task force as well, perhaps even striking her down when she beamed aboard your ship.


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Report this Mar. 20 2012, 12:40 pm

 


Well the female shape shifter did always like Vorta, if you remember she was "saddened" when they killed the last W clone. But the Jem'Hadar it didn't seem like she thought of them as more that tools. But who knows, maybe I'm just over analyzing it. I just think(/hope) that writers would think the story's through.


 


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Report this Mar. 20 2012, 2:48 pm

I think she just favored Weyoun in particular.  Weyoun was especially devoted to the Founders in a religous sense, more so than others it seemed.


Weyoun was such a wonderfully complex character, as are Jeffery Combs' other performances.


J Kirk In Texas

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Report this Mar. 20 2012, 7:23 pm

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Mar. 20 2012, 2:48 pm

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>I think she just favored Weyoun in particular.  Weyoun was especially devoted to the Founders in a religous sense, more so than others it seemed.

>Weyoun was such a wonderfully complex character, as are Jeffery Combs' other performances.

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Might just have favored him, but who knows. I agree that Jeffery Combs is a good actor. I mean shuran from enterprise was awesome.


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Report this Mar. 21 2012, 8:25 pm

Im new to STO in that I started playing 2 days after it went F2P. I am however a Vice Admiral, so take it as you will. Im a vulcan science officer in an Oddy most of the time, galaxy refit and assault sometimes. Feel free to give me a shout.


 

Matthias Russell

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Report this Mar. 22 2012, 6:56 am

What is your name in game?


Hopefully NOT Don Suave.  Doesn't sound very Vulcan.


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Report this Mar. 22 2012, 4:21 pm

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Mar. 22 2012, 6:56 am

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>What is your name in game?

>Hopefully NOT Don Suave.  Doesn't sound very Vulcan.

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Yeah what is your name?


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