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Mar. 04 2012, 10:51 pm
I don't know about him being a focal point in a movie, but I feel he would be a nice cameo like if they did another TNG movie and near the end Q confronts Picard in a nonhostile manner and more or less congrats him on a great career and refers to him. idk if that is a great idea but who cares.
John de Lancie is such a great actor and I feel he is underutilized in Hollywood.
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Mar. 06 2012, 11:49 am
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>I don't know about him being a focal point in a movie, but I feel he would be a nice cameo like if they did another TNG movie and near the end Q confronts Picard in a nonhostile manner and more or less congrats him on a great career and refers to him. idk if that is a great idea but who cares.
>John de Lancie is such a great actor and I feel he is underutilized in Hollywood.
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Kinda moot, since we know there will never be another TNG movie.
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Mar. 06 2012, 12:56 pm
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>Kinda moot, since we know there will never be another TNG movie.
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Mar. 06 2012, 1:23 pm
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>Why are we told that the courtroom is an accurate representation of the 21st century when the extras look like Les Mis cast offs?
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That's funny.
Are you sure it isn't time for a colorful metaphor?
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Mar. 06 2012, 5:03 pm
I still don't think it'd be a bad idea to have him in one. He dosen't have to be the focal point, but, say, a catalyst. Like in the TNG series when he introduced the Federation to the Borg.
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Mar. 07 2012, 3:17 am
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Besides which, have you seen some 21st century specimens?
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Mar. 07 2012, 3:19 am
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Nothing wrong with hypotheticals. Besides, you never know what might happen...
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That's all this thread was ever intended to be -- a hypothetical discussion, for the sake of discussion.
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Mar. 07 2012, 7:09 am
When TNG was coming to an end, the stories that would become Generations and All Good Things were created. The writing and production staff actually debated for a long time over which should be the series finale and which should be a movie. At one time, All Good Things was going to be the movie with Generations as the tv finale. So Q almost was in the movies.
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Mar. 07 2012, 7:28 am
Quote: Matthias Russell @ Mar. 07 2012, 7:09 am | >
>When TNG was coming to an end, the stories that would become Generations and All Good Things were created. The writing and production staff actually debated for a long time over which should be the series finale and which should be a movie. At one time, All Good Things was going to be the movie with Generations as the tv finale. So Q almost was in the movies.
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I've heard that from Braga in the Generations Commentary. I've never been able to wrap my head around it though. "All Good Things..." depends so much on knowledge from the series, even more so than Generations, which only uses little tidbits like that Farpoint reference.
It's fascinating to think that at one point, Kirk could have closed out a show who's basic function was to prove that Trek could go on without him.
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Matthias Russell GROUP: Members POSTS: 7705 |
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Mar. 07 2012, 11:41 am
I don't think Generations stands alone any better than All Good Things. I think the biggest failure of the TNG movies is they rely too much on you already knowing TNG, far more than the TOS films did.
By contrast, look at Serenity. You could watch that movie without ever having seen Firefly and enjoy it. In fact, I didn't know Firefly existed before I watched Serenity. The TNG film staff failed to do that to reach out to non trek fans.
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Mar. 07 2012, 1:58 pm
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Besides which, have you seen some 21st century specimens?
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Mar. 08 2012, 3:35 am
Quote: Matthias Russell @ Mar. 07 2012, 11:41 am | >
>I don't think Generations stands alone any better than All Good Things. I think the biggest failure of the TNG movies is they rely too much on you already knowing TNG, far more than the TOS films did.
>By contrast, look at Serenity. You could watch that movie without ever having seen Firefly and enjoy it. In fact, I didn't know Firefly existed before I watched Serenity. The TNG film staff failed to do that to reach out to non trek fans.
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I can only respond that the first time I saw Generations, I had not seen much of TNG and had only the most basic understanding of less than half of the characters. It did not confuse me and I required no foreknowledge. But it's kind of an unfair comparison to say that Gen. or All Good Things was better on that basis -- because All Good Things was the end of a series. I'm not sure that Search for Spock or even the first Star Trek movie would stand up so well to someone with no former knowledge of the series.
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Mar. 08 2012, 7:35 am
i think TMP could be grasped by someone who didn't watch the show. I think Search for Spock would too. The key to understanding SFS isn't TOS, but having watched Wrath of Kahn.
And I'd say Gen wrapped up TNG just as well as AGT did. I mean, they destroyed the ship and the villains were developed in the series.
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Mar. 08 2012, 7:49 am
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>i think TMP could be grasped by someone who didn't watch the show. I think Search for Spock would too. The key to understanding SFS isn't TOS, but having watched Wrath of Kahn.
>And I'd say Gen wrapped up TNG just as well as AGT did. I mean, they destroyed the ship and the villains were developed in the series.
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I'm proof that TSFS can be grasped by someone with no previous Trek knowledge, because that is the very first piece of Star Trek I ever saw, other than TNG when scrolling the channels (while searching for cartoons).
I remember I first saw GEN for Kirk, since I know little about TNG, other than it was in the 24th Century and Picard was well established with a long running show. I didn't feel out of place with GEN while watching it hoenstly, even with my very limited TNG knowledge.
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Mar. 10 2012, 4:12 am
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>Do you think it would be good to see Q on the big screen? Discuss.
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