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Q in a movie

OtakuJo

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Report this Feb. 28 2012, 4:02 am

Do you think it would be good to see Q on the big screen? Discuss.


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Report this Feb. 28 2012, 5:20 am

He snaps his fingers & undoes the Abrams crap... Yes!

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Report this Feb. 28 2012, 5:05 pm

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Please, no.


I am curious. Why not?


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Report this Feb. 28 2012, 6:24 pm

I always hated Q, personally. He's good for comic relief, but there's no way producers could put him on the big screen and expect people to take it seriously.


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Report this Feb. 28 2012, 8:27 pm

James T. Kirk already stared down God.  We don't need any nancy-pants also-rans.

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Report this Feb. 29 2012, 6:37 pm

No thanks.


1. Q is a relic of the TNG era, and wouldn't make sense in films that are being produced with the classic characters.


2. The character was overused in TNG, and by the time he was making appearances in DS9 and VOY, it had become boring.


3. Not enough general audience members would care about a Q appearance. It would mean nothing to them.

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Report this Mar. 01 2012, 2:05 am

I'm inclined to agree. While it would be interesting to most people who are fans, and know of Q and his history, to people who are just being introduced to Trek from the last film, they'd be lost. When I say interesting to fans, I mean from a possible story line point of view. Here's my take on one:


Q makes an appearance to the crew and informs them of what they already know about their being in an alternate reality. Of course, by this time, everyone has pretty much settled into the fact that this alternate reality is their life now, and they will live it as it unfolds. Q offers to restore things to the way they were, and allows them "peeks" into what their lives were like in the unaltered universe. Of course, he only lets them see peeks of good things; like Spock's mother being alive, and Kirk's father surviving. And of course, by Q being who he is, he wants a little something in return for setting things right (I'd have to figure out what Q could possibly want from them, tho). If the crew decides to do this. Now, they're faced with the delima of changing the course of their reality not only for themselves, but for the entire universe. Can they alone make that decision and live with it? Or would temptation cause them to make selfish decisions? Once it was done, if it were done, would they even realize or remember it?


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That's just a Q idea that popped into my head regarding the queation.


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Report this Mar. 01 2012, 5:03 am

hmmm...

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Report this Mar. 01 2012, 9:31 pm

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>I'm inclined to agree. While it would be interesting to most people who are fans, and know of Q and his history, to people who are just being introduced to Trek from the last film, they'd be lost.

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I'm not sure that movies have a "Tune in Next Week" option lol.


I'm actually pretty neutral on the subject myself - - thought it would make for an interesting discussion though. (I'm wondering if there will be any responses in favour, simply for the sake of debate?)


As to the potential for confusing audiences who perhaps have never encountered Q, I think that might not be such an issue. Think for example of the first time that you saw Q? Were you confused?


Most people I think would recognise him by type -- as we have seen many similar characters before him. All they would really need to know is that he is a) omnipotent, b) omniscient & c) often deliberately irritating. The classic trickster figure that appears in so many different forms in a variety of different tales.


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Report this Mar. 02 2012, 5:56 am

Q works as an episode story element. An omnipotent being like himself wouldn't work well in a Blockbuster setting I think.


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Report this Mar. 02 2012, 6:06 am

Re: Think for example of the first time that you saw Q? Were you confused?


 


YES!  Why was there a Mongolian midget ringing a bell?  Why are we told that the courtroom is an accurate representation of the 21st century when the extras look like Les Mis cast offs?  What's with that hat, the robes, the floating chair, what is he wearing?  What.Is.He.Wearing?


 


You are right that people will recognize him by type, that's because the character predates TNG.  He was created by Jerry Siegel who called him Mr. Mxyzptlk.  Q's appearance in TNG isn't anything more to build a movie on that Mr. Mxyzptlk's appearances in Superman are.  Just be thankful Stewart and de Lancie never had to act a scene where Picard rearranges Q's Alphabits into exactly the right phrase that will send him back to the Fifth Dimension.

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Report this Mar. 02 2012, 5:49 pm

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>YES!  Why was there a Mongolian midget ringing a bell?  Why are we told that the courtroom is an accurate representation of the 21st century when the extras look like Les Mis cast offs?  What's with that hat, the robes, the floating chair, what is he wearing?  What.Is.He.Wearing?

>You are right that people will recognize him by type, that's because the character predates TNG.  He was created by Jerry Siegel who called him Mr. Mxyzptlk.  Q's appearance in TNG isn't anything more to build a movie on that Mr. Mxyzptlk's appearances in Superman are.  Just be thankful Stewart and de Lancie never had to act a scene where Picard rearranges Q's Alphabits into exactly the right phrase that will send him back to the Fifth Dimension.

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HAHA ok I'll grant you Encounter at Farpoint was a terrible episode in so many ways -- and such a terrible introduction for that character. I guess I was lucky in that it was not the first episode I saw him in. I think of him as the classic trickster, predated not just by Mr. Mxyzptlk, but by Rumplestiltskin, Hermes, and Loki.


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Report this Mar. 02 2012, 5:54 pm

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>Heck, wouldn't it be alternate universe Q?

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A character like that one might speculate would be pan-dimensional!


Now there's a thought (hahaha...) You can't get away from him, no matter where you go.


But in any case the question was in regard to A movie, not necessarily AN AU movie. Since it will  probably never happen and I only ever posed the possibility for the sake of it, we don't necessarily have to assume that a Q movie would be set in the JJ-verse. (or mirror-verse, or any other alternate universe.)


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Report this Mar. 02 2012, 8:16 pm

I wonder what Q would be like in the mirror universe...


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Report this Mar. 03 2012, 2:18 pm

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>Q's obnoxious character was a good contrast to the stuffy Picard character and did well with the straight-laced Janeway.

>I don't think he did as well with the dynamic Sisko.

>I think Q would need another contrasting 'serious' Starship captain to deal with and maybe be a little less obnoxious and more charismatic in a major movie Just my opinion.

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Nice. I never really thought about it but I always did think that he didn't work as well on DS9 as TNG and Voy. Could never quite figure out why, but considering that the crew of the Ent-D is comparatively "stuffy" (this is not an indictment against TNG -- it's just how things are) and DS9 is already far less orderly than a Federation starship, he does provide more of a contrast and a challenge for Picard and Janeway and their already established ideals.


So, now I know why he was so out of place on DS9, something I have tried to figure out for so long! Good stuff.


I don't think the Founders would like him very much!


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