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Do you believe that aliens or other space creatures exist in our galaxy/or another galaxy?

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xXLadyDataXx

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Report this Feb. 25 2012, 1:31 am

Lately there have been UFO findings in South America and in the U.S and since Gene Rodenberry invented Klingons. Androids, Andorians, Vulcans, Romulans, Borgs, Betazoids, etc would it be possible that aliens or other space creatures exist in a far distant galaxy/in our galaxy?


I believe anything is possible!!


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Report this Feb. 25 2012, 4:35 am

If we consider all the troubles we are making by ourselves on our own planet... i think they will do what ever is possible to avoid our primitive culture eheheh

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Report this Feb. 26 2012, 7:48 pm

Quote: enrico.billi @ Feb. 25 2012, 4:35 am

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>If we consider all the troubles we are making by ourselves on our own planet... i think they will do what ever is possible to avoid our primitive culture eheheh

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Basically wouldn't they want to use that to their advantage if they wanted to invade Earth.


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Report this Feb. 26 2012, 10:06 pm

It is certainly looking increasingly possible with the discovery of carbon bearing material and significant amounts of water within our own solar system, and the knowledge that some species of microbe can survive in a vacuum. Personally I have always found it difficult to imagine that life could have evolved on the Earth with this level of complexity, and not at least attained a simple form elsewhere. I'm leaning towards the notion that given the right conditions, development of self-replicating life is a chemical imperative.


Whether or not there have been extraterrestrial beings visiting Earth I would think of as, highly unlikely but possible. However I am in agreement with those such as Professor Hawking who say "If there is a [government] cover-up, then they are doing a far better job of it than they seem to be doing at anything else."


If aliens were potentially to invade the Earth, they would probably do so for the same reason that humans have invaded much of the planet: Resources. They would very likely view us as lower lifeforms and therefore unworthy of particular consideration. (Just thinking in terms of the mentality of invaders here.) Not to say that it's likely to happen, but that is certainly a likely motivation.


I am curious about one thing: The phrase "aliens or other space creatures"... What space creatures would you consider to fall outside the definition of "aliens" ? (Just teasing.)


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Report this Feb. 27 2012, 3:47 am

Quote: xXLadyDataXx @ Feb. 26 2012, 7:48 pm

Quote: enrico.billi @ Feb. 25 2012, 4:35 am

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>If we consider all the troubles we are making by ourselves on our own planet... i think they will do what ever is possible to avoid our primitive culture eheheh

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Basically wouldn't they want to use that to their advantage if they wanted to invade Earth.


Invade Earth? I think it is a waste of energy and time, a lot of unmanned planets exist all around the Solar System and they have all the materials an advanced culture will need without killing anyone...

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Report this Feb. 27 2012, 2:37 pm

Quote: enrico.billi @ Feb. 27 2012, 3:47 am

Quote: xXLadyDataXx @ Feb. 26 2012, 7:48 pm

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Invade Earth? I think it is a waste of energy and time, a lot of unmanned planets exist all around the Solar System and they have all the materials an advanced culture will need without killing anyone...


Yes and no.


If all they want are raw materials then space is abundant with resources. Why go through the hassle of interacting with other beings, war, death, and being exposed to new diseases?


On the other hand, humans themselves are a resource. Slave labor, knowledge, or entertainment could be a motivation.


We can't assume that better technology means better behavior and morality.


 


It is curious how often you humans manage to obtain that which you do not want. - Spock

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Report this Feb. 27 2012, 3:20 pm

If Sagan And Hawking Think So.....

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Report this Feb. 27 2012, 4:21 pm

I personally believe in the existence of nonterrestrial life, and yes, that we have indeed been visited by beings from outside our biosphere. Even though many, or most professionals in the scientific community seem to not agree with this latter, and widely-held public sentiment, most would I am sure acknowledge, in the EXTREMELY high likelihood, a virtual certainty, that, indeed, there IS life beyond earth, regardless of how vast a distance this sentient life may be, particularly as the available study of the universe, and understanding of its nature, and makeup, has expanded with scientific advancement. And think about it.....there are billions, upon billions, upon billions, of stars in our galaxy alone....as much as exist the number of grains of sand, upon every beach, upon planet earth. And 'in all that, and perhaps more'-wink, wink, nudge, nudge-there is NO life, sentient? I DON'T THINK SO!!!!......


''If I were captain, i'd open every crack in the universe, and peek inside, just like Captain Janeway does''-Kes, ''The Cloud''

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Report this Feb. 27 2012, 4:35 pm

Either answer is staggering


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Report this Feb. 27 2012, 5:15 pm

I believe in extra-terrestrials. As for whether they've ever visited Earth, I honestly don't know. I have trouble believing that they're almost clever enough to avoid being detected by us primitive Earthlings.


As for their motives...opinion seems to be divided as to whether they've taken a similar stance to ours (conquest, greed, expansion, etc) or whether they'd have to learn to live with themselves to avoid self-destruction (like in Trek). It depends on how their history plays out in relation to ours.


"The future is in the hands of those who explore... And from all the beauty they discover while crossing perpetually receding frontiers, they develop for nature and for humankind an infinite love." - Jacques Yves Cousteau

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Report this Feb. 27 2012, 5:27 pm

Human hubris-or, moreso, lack of a proper understanding of earth, and its place amidst the heavens, held back our opening of our eyes to what could be....you're right, that WOULD be in fact staggering, that we were all that was.....A far-future universe, populated only by homo sapiens. I do think, and I come from a background, at least, of a religious home, that many people of faith before, anyway, may have, and this is just a gut assumption, or guess, didn't look at that possiblity of alien life, after all, Christianity-wise, there were no references-assuming one doesn't equate Ezekiel's wheel, to a UFO-to beings beyond our then-known physical world, or spiritual, beyond angels/demons, or The Trinity. We were all very human-centric...just as there have to be countless worlds out there, who, like us, are at a similar point of development, still wrapped in a coccoon of assumptions about their place in All, but coming to wonder 'Are we alone'.....You know, while st exists within fiction, it's a darn good blueprint, in an eye to the Prime Directive, of how we should comport ourselves, in some imagined future journey into the Final Frontier. I was watching an old Stargate ep last night, in which the team wondered for a while if their heretofore free-form excursions to other planets-that is, Daniel did-were not placing others at great potential peril, but then, as Sam said, so far, their contacts had been with primarily humans, descendents, most cases, of 'Guld'-transplant human beings. One even broader question in 'Are we alone', has been 'Is our universe the only one'........whether one agrees to that possiblity a la quantum theory, or not....


''If I were captain, i'd open every crack in the universe, and peek inside, just like Captain Janeway does''-Kes, ''The Cloud''

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Report this Feb. 28 2012, 4:05 am

Quote: Mitchz95 @ Feb. 27 2012, 5:15 pm

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>I believe in extra-terrestrials. As for whether they've ever visited Earth, I honestly don't know. I have trouble believing that they're almost clever enough to avoid being detected by us primitive Earthlings.

>As for their motives...opinion seems to be divided as to whether they've taken a similar stance to ours (conquest, greed, expansion, etc) or whether they'd have to learn to live with themselves to avoid self-destruction (like in Trek). It depends on how their history plays out in relation to ours.

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Speculating from the point of view of Likelihood -- it is just as unlikely that there is only one alien ecosystem out there, and therefore their motives for a potential visit (or their motives to stay away) would probably be as varied as ours. If not more so.


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Report this Feb. 28 2012, 4:03 pm

I voted no.  I think we're it.  But if there were aliens that could visit us, they would be so far advanced, we'd be like toads.  If they wanted to colonize or use our resources, I don't think a planet infested with toads is going to stop them.  Can't see Capt. Kirk telling Starfleet not to go to some planet, because there are too many toads there.  If there are intelligent creatures out there, pray they don't find us.  It won't be pretty. 


No response must mean you all agree.

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Report this Feb. 29 2012, 4:19 pm

Regardless of whether you believe that a god created the Universe or that Evolution is the reason for the creation of the Universe through a paradoxial series of events the fact of the matter is that a single event that lead to the creation of life on Earth would regulate Earth to being the only habitable or planet with life on it.


Let go back to when the Universe just exploded. If we trace the origins of the creation of the Earth back to the point from which Earth origins were part of the Big Bang we can begin to see the area of the Big Bang where process of creation that created Earth actually occured.


This would be called the Big Bang Goldilocks Zone where the same type of zone present within a solar system around a sun that is able to sustain life can be applied to the same area or time of the Big Bang when the eneregtic properties that created the Sol System would have been released into the void.


The same area in the Goldilocks region of the Big Bang that produced the energies and causilities that eventually spun into Earth would be present in this area.


Think of it like this. You have a chocolate dessert that is layered. The bottom layer contains hard chocolate bars, the next layer contains a brownie layer that is somewhat harder, you then have a layer of pudding that has a layer of vanila pudding on top with a final layer of hard chocolate that has harnded by putting it in the fridge.


Now if we were to put a firecracker in the center of this treat and light it and the firecracker explodes. The explosive result will cause the layers of the dessert which in this case is representing the layers of the Big Bang prior to the Big Bang would be sent hurtling across the Universe in all directions with various amounts of each layer heading in various directions.


See how the layer of energy at which the Earth spun from would also be present across the Universe and how life will be present in many forms based upon what type of material exited the Big Bang with the same soup that Earth spun into from.


The above dessert is actually something that I made and would send councilor Troi into a fit.


The rest of recipe is as follows:


Bottom Layer broken bits of any type of chocolate. A chocolate pudding layer, Vanila pudding layer where the mix from the chocolate pudding is placed on top of the vanila pudding layer.


Once this base layer is complete the final Matrix Bliss involves adding any type of cake layer onto of the the hardened layer with frosting on top of the cake and then a final layer of chocolate that remains slightly moist but not runner nor hard like the middle layer of chocolate.


The dessert must be made seperate and the frosting on the top layer of the cake must be used to cement the cake layer to the pudding layer.


Refrigerate and enjoy.


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Report this Mar. 01 2012, 7:26 pm

there is an equation by Frank Drake of SETI that calculates the populational density of the galaxy.


Drake's equation states that if you have a given number of stars (known) and of those a given number has planets (we are discovering them right now), and of such you can get a percentage to harbor inteligent, long living life (actually there are four terms here, habitable, harboring life, harboring intelligent life and this life living long and prosp... long enough to develop technology) , you get results. (personally what I find good news is that you need to punch down a lot of factors to get a no for an answer)


Right now we know one of the terms for almost sure (number of stars in the galaxy), and are working on the other ones, my I'd give my life to go down on an M class planet even if only to be eaten by the local monster!

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