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Overuse of Shuttles in ST09?

Matthias Russell

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Report this Feb. 22 2012, 4:56 pm

We saw a lot of shuttlecraft usage in ST09.  However in TOS, and most of trek, shuttles only seem to be used when planetary beaming isn't possible, distances are too great for transporting, or something is too unstable for transport.


However, in ST09 shuttles were used for planet-to-orbit transit and continental transit.  Also, Kirk was castaway to a planet via escape pod instead of transporter.


Were shuttles used too much in the movie?  Would you have expected less shuttles and more use of the transporter?


 

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Report this Feb. 22 2012, 6:53 pm

I don't think transporter energy usage is an issue.  There was more money in the previous films and other tv series and the transporter was still in wide spread use. Transporters also would seem more futuristic to a movie audience.


Plus, transporting takes seconds.  I would guess transporting Kirk down (heard of near-warp transport?) and transporting the cadets up would have been much faster than flying there.


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Report this Feb. 22 2012, 9:07 pm

Slightly off-topic but why did Nero want them to shuttle over when beaming would be quicker?


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Matthias Russell

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Report this Feb. 22 2012, 10:10 pm

If the drill was inhibiting communication signals, perhaps it inhibited transporter signals as well.


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Report this Feb. 22 2012, 10:20 pm

I do think the shuttles were mostly used for ferrying multiple people, which seems more convenient than using transporters. In the case of Kirk's exile, the escape pod also provided him with some protection against the elements (until he left it) once he was on the planet's surface.


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Report this Feb. 23 2012, 6:18 am

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Feb. 22 2012, 10:10 pm

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>If the drill was inhibiting communication signals, perhaps it inhibited transporter signals as well.

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It does in fact. Pike explained it as he, Kirk and Spock were walking to the hanger.I don't think they were used too much. The only reason they were used so little in TOS was because Gene found it took too much resources to film the crew coming and going on a shuttle craft so much.


On a side not: the transporter bigs me in ST09. Has anyone noticed that the floor pads are now curved upward rather than a flat surface? It just rubs me the wrong way...


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Report this Feb. 23 2012, 2:18 pm

Weren't transporters originally used in order to save money in production?

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Report this Feb. 23 2012, 10:38 pm

Quote: OneDamnMinuteAdmiral @ Feb. 22 2012, 9:07 pm

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>Slightly off-topic but why did Nero want them to shuttle over when beaming would be quicker?

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On top of the transporter issue, he could also mine data from the Shuttles if needed.

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Report this Feb. 24 2012, 8:33 am

Over Vulcan, it is stated that the drill scrambles communications signals and transporter beams as well.


 


I'm not sure why they prefered the shuttle over the transporter with regard to the Kelvin.


Admittedly, they didn't really use shuttles any more than some of the other movies (Trek V used shuttles just as much, Trek I had the travepod shuttle scene and the Vulcan shuttle...etc).

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Report this Feb. 26 2012, 4:16 am

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Feb. 22 2012, 4:56 pm

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class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;">We saw a lot of shuttlecraft usage in ST09.  However in TOS, and most of trek, shuttles only seem to be used when planetary beaming isn't possible, distances are too great for transporting, or something is too unstable for transport.

class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;">However, in ST09 shuttles were used for planet-to-orbit transit and continental transit.  Also, Kirk was castaway to a planet via escape pod instead of transporter.

class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;">Were shuttles used too much in the movie?  Would you have expected less shuttles and more use of the transporter?


 


No why, what else would they be used for?


I mean what's the point of even having shuttles and not using them for what they were designed for???


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Report this Mar. 10 2012, 4:23 am

Quote: AtoZ2 @ Feb. 26 2012, 4:16 am

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Feb. 22 2012, 4:56 pm

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class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;">We saw a lot of shuttlecraft usage in ST09.  However in TOS, and most of trek, shuttles only seem to be used when planetary beaming isn't possible, distances are too great for transporting, or something is too unstable for transport.

class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;">However, in ST09 shuttles were used for planet-to-orbit transit and continental transit.  Also, Kirk was castaway to a planet via escape pod instead of transporter.

class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;">Were shuttles used too much in the movie?  Would you have expected less shuttles and more use of the transporter?

 

No why, what else would they be used for?

I mean what's the point of even having shuttles and not using them for what they were designed for???


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Report this Mar. 13 2012, 1:23 am

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Feb. 22 2012, 10:10 pm

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>If the drill was inhibiting communication signals, perhaps it inhibited transporter signals as well.

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It did. That's wht Pike told them they had to destroy the drill BEFORE they could be transported back to the ship


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Report this Mar. 19 2012, 2:35 pm

i can only think of 2 instances where they used shuttles. besides, before, they didn't really have the technology to do that kind of thing with the shutles in a movie. i think that they spread out the transporter and shuttle use pretty equally, and did it pretty well.


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Report this Mar. 20 2012, 1:30 pm

maybe they were taking cargo as well as the cadets from earth to the enterprise. possibly easier to haul cargo via shuttle rather than transport. plus i agree with a previous poster that the scene with mcoy would have been much less effective had they been together in a transporter line. they kind of already did the "mccoy hates transporters" idea in "tmp". this way they could (re)establish mccoys dislike of technology in a slightly different way.


sometimes it is about the success of a scene vs being tied to some rational thought about modes of transportation.


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