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Did you like Chris Pine as Captain Kirk?

OtakuJo

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Report this Feb. 20 2012, 3:14 am

Yes -- spoof imitations are great for sketch comedy, but would have been horrible in a sci-fi / action flick.


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Report this Feb. 20 2012, 8:26 am

@ ServalanFan


I thought it laughable when he was quoting regulation against Spock on Delta Vega like some dedicated pinpushing officer. He who had sneaked aboard, comitted mutiny, cheated on the Kobyashi Maru.


Kirk did cheat on that same test in the Prime Universe also.

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Report this Feb. 20 2012, 11:17 am

He was appalling. He was awful. He was a stereotype of an archetype. He was a cliche on legs.


We should have which is the worst scene of Pine/Kirk (could be combined as Pirk or Kine)?


I'd go for the apple-munching smartass punk during the Kobyashi Maru test ...


But there are plenty of other contenders


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Report this Feb. 20 2012, 11:41 am

I'm fairly new to Star Trek, still getting to know the characters and the universe, so I can only give a tentative opinion, but I'd say he was decent enough.


I mean, I can kinda see Pine's character as a young Kirk. He may not have been as great as Urban or Cho or Quinto in making the character feel incredibly similar to the TOS counterpart, but he was definately better than Saldana and Pegg (not saying Pegg did terrible; he was awesome. But '09 Scotty just didn't feel like TOS Scotty to me. Wish I could say the same of Saldana.)


 


 


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Report this Feb. 20 2012, 10:38 pm

Hey folks. To all my fellow trekies out there-it's a pleasure to make your aquaintance..as informal as it may be. I think that Chris Pine did a good job. He portrayed a young kid who had his own ideas about starfleet and life..He portrayed a common kid who was struggling with his own issues about his own life, and how to handle them. Let's take a look at Jim Kirk as a child. He obviously didn't know his dad, but he did know of him..through his mom and of course through other people talking about him. His mom was with a new guy who was raising him..but apparently didn't get along with. This idea was inferred when he has the convo while taking that car for a joy ride. so now, he becomes a juvenile delinquent when stopped by the police because he's havng issues at home. The next scen we see him in a bar, seemingly drunk. The way he was carrying himself gave me the impression that it wasn't his first time being drunk. so possibly, he was accustomed to drinkinig to escape whatever problems he was dealing with.. On epossible problem was the burden of being a genius, but being stuck in the rut of a small town. Sometimes, great intellectual prowess is a burden not easily carried..so oneturns to other outlets..sometimes good..sometimes bad. The next inferrence to him knowing of his dad is the conversation he had with Captai Pike. When he said, "because of who's son you are", that seemed to annoy him..which clearly proved that he heard something to that effect before. Then he made the decision to join becasue he wanted to challenge himself. I also feel that he had an innate desire to help others on a grand scale. What better way than to join Starfleet..Yes he wasn't taking it seriousl in the beginning, but when things became, "real", he did step up and as someone else said, "he grew up quickly". I appreciated his acting, and his portrayal of Kirk maturing right before our eyes as a result of the circumstances at the moment. I'm glad he got the role. I believe he did Shat proud.. even down t the leg crossing thingy..lol..too funny..ne way.. have a great day friends!

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Report this Feb. 21 2012, 6:54 am

I appreciate what they are going for, and that is a young Jimmy Kirk not yet defined as the man that he's suppose to be.


The excecution leaves something to be desired though, as the movie ends with him taking the captain's seat, yet he doesn't seem to posses the command prescense Kirk had in his first appeareance. Also the whole car-down-the-canyon thing really doesn't do new Kirk any favors.


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Report this Feb. 21 2012, 6:57 am

Quote: Ghostmojo @ Feb. 20 2012, 11:17 am

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>He was appalling. He was awful. He was a stereotype of an archetype. He was a cliche on legs.

>We should have which is the worst scene of Pine/Kirk (could be combined as Pirk or Kine)?

>I'd go for the apple-munching smartass punk during the Kobyashi Maru test ...

>But there are plenty of other contenders

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I actually appreciate that scene for the connection with TWOK. What I don't like is the commentary where JJ is basically saying "I didn't even register the connection. I just had him eat an aple because I think people who eat apples are arrogant"


I'd rather think JJ is being sarcastic in the commentary, because if he really couldn't make a connection between Kirr eating an apple here and in STII, someone remind me why is this guy directing Star Trek?


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Report this Feb. 21 2012, 7:28 am

@Desdinva777..i agree that his initial and obvious reason was to show up Captian Pike. Yes, you're right..But if you kindly recall the convo between him and Pike at the table..when he said, "you feel like youwere meant for somethin better":....he looked at him with one of "those looks"..a look of "how did you know..yet with an aire of defiance.." which is why his next statment was, "why are you talking to me man?"...


So while i agree with you, i believe that his real motive, not realized by anyone,(not even himself at the moment), was to to challenge himself and in some ways, (i'd like to think), make his parents proud.

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Report this Feb. 21 2012, 8:20 am

i loved him as kirk..actually i loved the whole cast..they had very good chemistry...as did the original cast...{ but as the original goes nobody can play kirk like shatner...because he molded the character}


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Report this Feb. 21 2012, 10:34 am

I liked how it shows Kirk of being a smart-ass... a troublemaker. In TOS he used a bit of that in various situations, and dealing with OTHERS who were like that. Being that 'element that leaps without looking' as Pike stated is an interesting trait, properly 'disciplined' as they noted in the episode of TOS when Kirk was split into two people by the transporter.


 

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Report this Feb. 21 2012, 2:57 pm

In the episode "Shoreleave", the recreated Finnegan from Kirk's academy days was always picking on Kirk then.  In the episode of "Where no Man has Gone Before" Gary Mitchell who was friends with Kirk mentioned he sent a woman to distract Kirk because Kirk was so serious and wanted him to study.  William Shatner was much handsomer in the orginal Star Trek than Chris Pine, William Shatner also has alot more charm.

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Report this Feb. 22 2012, 12:48 am

Quote: jonctaylor81 @ Feb. 20 2012, 10:38 pm

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>... He portrayed a young kid who had his own ideas about starfleet and life..He portrayed a common kid who was struggling with his own issues about his own life, and how to handle them...

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I can see why you might say that. And let's face it if this chip-on-the-shoulder punk portrayal was the first time we had ever seen such a thing on the movie screen, it might have been worthwhile - but it wasn't!


This is a hackneyed stereotype and it is almost as old as Hollywood itself. I'm amazed that so few people can see that. There are a few on here that have said the same thing as me. The PineKirk is not a developed character - it is a cardboard cut-out caracature (and not a very good one at that).


This has been done a million times before. The kid with an axe to grind against everybody. The poor little tearaway James Dean type looking for a fight to prove himself - getting into trouble with the law etc.


You are not looking at James Kirk on the screen - you are looking at every teenage punk that has ever appeared in any coming of age story in the last 50 years since Rebel Without A Cause.


The Pine portrayal was a betrayal. It was not Kirk at all. It was somebody with the same name - but not the same persona.


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Report this Feb. 22 2012, 5:44 am

Fans here have to remember something... This Kirk that Chris Pine did in this movie is going to be different from the original. REMEMBER the timeline has changed. So call it room for movie error or whatever, but you have to understand that there are different styles in not only the actors portrayal of a character, but there are differences in the character himself in THIS movie because as the timeline changed_ so did Kirk's upbringing. Now that Kirk is captain in the new movie, I would need to see a sequel to see if we can identify with Kirk's character as he was in the original series. Maybe then we can be able to compare the different actors' portrayal more directly 


   


 

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Report this Feb. 22 2012, 10:18 am

I think Pine kirk was too forward and gross in his womanizing. He acts like an arrogant you-know-what, Uhura was right to smack him. Shatner kirk was majorly over-confident, but charming. Different timeline aside, I don't like that change.

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Report this Feb. 22 2012, 10:26 am

He was more like the typical "college movie" main char if you ask me. Not captain Kirk. But I liked it.


 


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