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Do you believe the Liberal Media?

22123magic

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Report this Feb. 07 2014, 4:03 pm

Quote: Ghost of Star Trek Past @ Feb. 07 2014, 3:18 pm

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>U will B like Europe soon!  Will B ALL state controlled media!

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Scary thought, but probably true.


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darmokattanagra

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Report this Feb. 07 2014, 7:51 pm

Not scary and not true. The media in both places is controlled by a handful of corporations. That is the scary truth you all willfully ignore.

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Report this Feb. 08 2014, 5:32 am

Quote: 22123magic @ Feb. 07 2014, 4:03 pm

Quote: Ghost of Star Trek Past @ Feb. 07 2014, 3:18 pm

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>U will B like Europe soon!  Will B ALL state controlled media!

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Scary thought, but probably true.

I born under Hitler occupation!  Grandparents and parents murdered by Hitler!  Then Russians occupy and murder more!  State control all media.  I live most life under socialist rule!  If continue path, US become like Europe soon!

FleetAdmiral_BamBam

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Report this Feb. 09 2014, 12:53 pm

Quote: Ghost of Star Trek Past @ Feb. 08 2014, 5:32 am

>I born under Hitler occupation!  Grandparents and parents murdered by Hitler!  Then Russians occupy and murder more!  State control all media.  I live most life under socialist rule!  If continue path, US become like Europe soon!
Wow!  I think I remember you saying you had lived under Soviet rule, but I didn't know that your country was also taken over by the Nazis too.  And on top of that, you lost your family?  If you don't mind me asking, who raised you?


Yes, anyone that reads just a little bit of history knows that the media was taken over by the socialist governments so that the truth wasn't told.  And those who dared to speak out against tyranny were usually murdered, sending a message to everyone else to keep in line.  Sadly, most of our current "media" is working with the government instead of exposing the corruption.  The government doesn't need to actually take it over because the media is already the mouthpiece of the government.  This is why pretty much all of the dozens of Obama scandals are either ignored by the media or the media is making excuses for Obama while attacking anyone trying to get to the truth of the scandals.  (Or blatant anti-Constitutional acts by politicians.)  Instead of being like Woodward and Bernstein, most of the current media are just the propoganda arm of the administration and the rest of the proregressives.  (This is why when conservative/libertarian policies work, the media buries it!  Like what's happening in WI with Gov, Scott Walker

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Report this Feb. 10 2014, 9:53 am

Since when do conservative/right-libertarian policies work? Privatization and deregulation don't work. They gave us slavery, robber barons, the truck system, scrip, child labor, unsafe working conditions, long hours, no overtime, no weekends, etc.

But yeah, explain again how people like me are the "ProRegressives." Explain how your policies will move the country forward. You know you can't so you just turn on the doublethink and pretend that everyone who disagrees with your absurd positions is trolling you.

This is a Star Trek forum, you and your fellow conservatives are the trolls. Unless of course this is the Mirror Universe in which case I suspect there are atheists and liberals running around the Left Behind forums calling all the real fans trolls, too.

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Report this Feb. 10 2014, 10:31 am

Quote: FleetAdmiral_BamBam @ Feb. 09 2014, 12:53 pm

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>Yes, anyone that reads just a little bit of history knows that the media was taken over by the socialist governments so that the truth wasn't told.  And those who dared to speak out against tyranny were usually murdered, sending a message to everyone else to keep in line.  Sadly, most of our current "media" is working with the government instead of exposing the corruption.  The government doesn't need to actually take it over because the media is already the mouthpiece of the government.  This is why pretty much all of the dozens of Obama scandals are either ignored by the media or the media is making excuses for Obama while attacking anyone trying to get to the truth of the scandals.  (Or blatant anti-Constitutional acts by politicians.)  Instead of being like Woodward and Bernstein, most of the current media are just the propoganda arm of the administration and the rest of the proregressives.  (This is why when conservative/libertarian policies work, the media buries it!  Like what's happening in WI with Gov, Scott Walker

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Look at China's media, and in Britain the stations to watch are BBC1, BBC2, BBC3, etc. (you get the idea).


That's what it will be like here soon. Except BRCKOBM-1, BRCKOBM-2, BRCKOBM-3, etc.


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Report this Feb. 10 2014, 11:30 am

Quote: 22123magic @ Feb. 10 2014, 10:31 am

>Look at China's media, and in Britain the stations to watch are BBC1, BBC2, BBC3, etc. (you get the idea).

>That's what it will be like here soon. Except BRCKOBM-1, BRCKOBM-2, BRCKOBM-3, etc.

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Yea....  spouting the government propoganda... pretty much like the USA's media currently does.  It's also fun watching (translated) videos of media from other authoritarian countries like Iran, North Korea, etc.  It was interesting to see them barely mention anything about government spying on citizens.... until they were spied on.  Then they were outraged that the press was spied on.  They think they're exempt from the tyranny the rest of the citizens are forced to endure.


That's one of the major problems with socialism.... it forces two classes - the government and the slaves.  Our current media is just aligning itself with the government.  Thankfully, the internet has made it possible for anyone and everyone to report the news. (It also allows people to just "report" falsehoods too.)  This allows a lot of competition instead of only a single government controlled mouthpiece.  Over time, as different sources are proven correct over and over again, the average citizen will move to them.  That's why some older media outlets are failing fast and newer ones (telling the whole truth) are growing extremely fast.

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Report this Feb. 10 2014, 11:45 am

The BBC is a corporation. The word is in the name: British Broadcasting CORPORATION. It is funded by tax payers but is not run by the government.

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Report this Feb. 10 2014, 11:50 am

The fact that it is a corporation is just a legal technicality. It is run behind the scenes by the government.


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Report this Feb. 10 2014, 12:44 pm

Quote: 22123magic @ Feb. 10 2014, 11:50 am

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>The fact that it is a corporation is just a legal technicality. It is run behind the scenes by the government.

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Which corporation?


Probably like the Federal Reserve, Fannie/Freddie, etc.  Officially, they're private companies, but in reality, they're government.

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Report this Feb. 10 2014, 12:57 pm

BBC is just another case of this.


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Report this Feb. 10 2014, 2:42 pm

Relative to Fox, yes.


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Report this Feb. 10 2014, 4:23 pm

Yes, relative to Faux, the BBC is "government." Then again, Faux was the mouthpiece of the Bush Administration so how does that work into the conspiracy theory? If all media is controlled by the government then why does one network say one thing and the others say something different? Doesn't it make more sense that the media is run by competing corporations?

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Report this Feb. 11 2014, 6:52 am

It's all a plot to throw us off the trail.


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Report this Feb. 11 2014, 2:55 pm

Everybody Complains About The media Being ' Liberal ',When The Fact Is, The Associated Press Might As well Be retitled US DEPARTMENT OF PROPAGANDA. 

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