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who was better, original scotty, or the one in the 2009 movie?

guillermo.mejía

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Report this Feb. 21 2012, 6:39 am

Quote: Ghostmojo @ Feb. 20 2012, 10:43 am

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>Is this question/thread a joke?

>How can you compare a man who personified this character over thirty years with somebody who played it for thirty minutes?

>I ask you ...

>Doohan was just perfect in every way, and the character grew with him - in every respect God bless him Jimmy Doohan RIP - the ONLY Scotty

>I am a big fan of Simon Pegg. He is a very engaging and brilliantly funny bloke. But this is not him at his best. I can understand why he did it - what actor would say no? But it doesn't suit him at all.

>Want to see Pegg at his best? Watch any of the following:

>Paul / Run Fatboy Run / Hot Fuzz / Shawn of the Dead

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I'm glad you didn't mention Mission Impossible 3.


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Report this Feb. 21 2012, 6:45 am

i just thought it would be an interesting topic to discuss. guess i was wrong.


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Report this Feb. 21 2012, 8:42 am

This was not Pegg's fault or anything to do with his acting integrity. According to Wiki, Abrams invited him to the part via email. Interesting because arguably 'Scotty' is of the more complex of the TOS characters & one would think that finding the actor to fill his  shoes might have amounted to more due diligence than what apparently transpired. Also, according to Wiki, Pegg's opinion on the accent was given alot of weight as well. So I guess you sort of reap what you sow at the end of the day.


In contrast, I was very impressed with Urban's McCoy. More McCoy than Kelley at times. He seemed perfectly cast Imo.

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Report this Feb. 21 2012, 12:00 pm

Quote: J.T.Kirk @ Feb. 21 2012, 8:42 am

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>This was not Pegg's fault or anything to do with his acting integrity. According to Wiki, Abrams invited him to the part via email. Interesting because arguably 'Scotty' is of the more complex of the TOS characters & one would think that finding the actor to fill his  shoes might have amounted to more due diligence than what apparently transpired. Also, according to Wiki, Pegg's opinion on the accent was given alot of weight as well. So I guess you sort of reap what you sow at the end of the day.

>In contrast, I was very impressed with Urban's McCoy. More McCoy than Kelley at times. He seemed perfectly cast Imo.

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You have to take into account that JJ and Pegg worked together in Mission Imposible 3. I imagine they developed a friendship and hence the offer. Pegg actually turned down the role when it was first offered, only to ask it back minutes later.


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Report this Feb. 21 2012, 12:37 pm

Quote: guillermo.mejía @ Feb. 21 2012, 12:00 pm

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>You have to take into account that JJ and Pegg worked together in Mission Imposible 3. I imagine they developed a friendship and hence the offer. Pegg actually turned down the role when it was first offered, only to ask it back minutes later.

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No, I didn't realize that. Sounds like he confided in him,  handed him the ball & let him run with it. He was okay. Although there's a much better fit lurking out there - one would hope.

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Report this Feb. 22 2012, 1:32 pm

Quote: guillermo.mejía @ Feb. 16 2012, 5:51 am

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>In fact I don't know many characters where you might pick the 2009 version over the original, with the exeption of Captain Pike.

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Having just rewatched "The Cage" and despite being a fan of Bruce Greenwood, I still give the nod to Jeff Hunter. The Cage is outstanding and so is Mr Hunter. Bruce Greenwood did a fine job as Pike but Hunter was better.


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Report this Feb. 22 2012, 5:00 pm

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Report this Feb. 23 2012, 11:33 am

Neither is better than the other.  I like them both. Scotty Prime is dear. The New Scotty is funnier.

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Report this Feb. 24 2012, 10:18 pm

I dunno about the entire cast being better -- some of them are better and some are not. The original cast has more "nostalgia value".


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Report this Feb. 29 2012, 12:30 am

Quote: Suvak @ Feb. 23 2012, 11:33 am

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>Neither is better than the other.  I like them both. Scotty Prime is dear. The New Scotty is funnier.

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Yes but the original Doohan Scotty had a dry and understated sense of humour. Some of his comments were very wry and ironic - understated but amusing nonetheless.


The Pegg Scotty is a bit of a caracature - forced humour rather than natural, as in let's make this guy a joker.


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Report this Mar. 30 2012, 7:48 pm

they were both really good scotties lol

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Report this Mar. 30 2012, 8:06 pm

Original Mr. Scott - hands down all the way!


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Report this Jun. 26 2012, 10:10 pm

James Doohan is the better version of Scotty.


I like Simon Pegg in the movie, but he just isn't anything like Scotty from TOS


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