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best trek film of them all??

Beershark

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Report this Apr. 01 2012, 5:33 am

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> Galaxy Quest? Cleverness? NOW WE ALL KNOW YOU ARE HIGH ON SOMTHING!!    

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>Galaxy Quest!

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Somebody's Smoking Some Romulan Ale. That Peice Of Crap Wasn't Even Funny! The Only Good Thing about Galaxy Quest Was That Sigourney Weaver Looked Good In A Blonde Wig And Wonderbra! Spaceballs Was TEN TIMES Funnier And All Of America Knows It!!  

Everyone has different opinions on the matter, but the only reason I can think of that any person would think of Galaxy Quest as unfunny is if they were somehow (perversely) offended by it. Spaceballs is also funny but it really doesn't come close to the sheer cleverness of Galaxy Quest. And you can't get me with the "All of America" reference either. And a further side note: Romulan ale is for drinking, not smoking!

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Vger23

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Report this Apr. 02 2012, 12:12 pm

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>whoever think star trek VI is overrated must be smoking something. how can anyone not like that as a star trek movie its great and better than the motion picture deal with that COLD HARD FACT 

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I'm the one who said Star Trek VI is over-rated. If you have some intelligent counterpoints to make other than just being an insulting twit, I'd be happy to debate.


 


Otherwise, go take a dump in your hat, sir.


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Mitchz95

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Report this Apr. 02 2012, 5:05 pm

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>If you have some intelligent counterpoints to make other than just being an insulting twit, I'd be happy to debate.

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Says the person who goes into every single thread and complains about its content. "It's supposed to be about MOVIES, not EPISODES!" "Oh great, ANOTHER anti-Abrams thread!" "I'm truly amazed that everybody doesn't share my opinion on everything!" "Against all odds, I'm still holding onto hope that one day I'll go into the TNG section and not find a Data thread."


Just saying.


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Report this Apr. 02 2012, 8:47 pm

The Wrath of Khan. When I was young, my dad rented all of the Star Trek movies for me(this is before Generations). He told me that TWOK was the best one...so all my life the fact that Wrath of Khan is the best Star Trek film  has always been engraved in my mind.

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Report this Apr. 03 2012, 8:28 am

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watch your mouth you troll i say star trek II is overrated you say star trek VI is overrated explain why or else or shut it. the wrath of khan is overrated to me because its story is weak its just some mad dude wanting revenge and about some genesis project that was explained better in the search for spock and i like kirtsy alley but she sucked as savvik and the only reason people like it is cause it was awesome compared to the motion picture which was a let down so the wrath of khan apears to be flawless in comparion to the motion picture so deal with that motion picture fanboy. star trek III IV V AND VI are all better than the motion picture and wrath of khan in my most VALID OPINION. 


I disagree with Vger23 as much as you do, but I have to point out that he/she did point out why he/she didn't like TUC on page 5.


How about the two of you try to be civil instead of playing Tellarites?


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Vger23

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Report this Apr. 03 2012, 12:26 pm

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> If you have some intelligent counterpoints to make other than just being an insulting twit, I'd be happy to debate.

>Otherwise, go take a dump in your hat, sir.

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Says the person who goes into every single thread and complains about its content. "It's supposed to be about MOVIES, not EPISODES!" "Oh great, ANOTHER anti-Abrams thread!" "I'm truly amazed that everybody doesn't share my opinion on everything!" "Against all odds, I'm still holding onto hope that one day I'll go into the TNG section and not find a Data thread."

Just saying.


 


Do I really go into EVERY thread and make these comments? Really?


And...I'm not quite sure how this relates to my being outright insulted, which is what I was responding to. You're not even involved in this discussion this person and I are having. What motivated you to take your shots, I wonder?


I may disagree with people a lot (such is life), and I may voice that, but I don't recall being outright disrespectful / insluting like this person has been. You may feel stung because I don't shoot rays of sunshine at people I don't agree with, but I'm generally not an insulting a-hole either. If at some point I assaulted your fragile sensibilities, then I humbly apologize.


 


But, I really appreciate your attempts to scold both of us like the "white knight of the message board" who is enlightened to proper etiquette and enlightened social behavior on internet forums. 


Who the hell are you to be passing any kind of judgement? Next time, mind your own business please.


Just sayin'.


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Vger23

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Report this Apr. 03 2012, 1:01 pm

Also in my own defense...let's not forget that my long rationale (at least I took the time to write something up that expressed my thoughts as opposed to just accusing people of being trolls and of "smoking something") ended with this statement:


 


I'm not saying I don't enjoy the film. It has some great moments, and it's certainly better than a few of the other films. That said, I go back to my original statement that it amazes me that so many fans (as nitpicky and petty as most are) consider this to be amongst the strongest outings. I'm one of the least nitpicky fans I know...but even I can't help but be turned off by the sloppy plot of "The Undiscovered Country."


Again, the whole point of my post was that I am surprised with how this film is considered a fan classic when it is so flawed. Usually, Trek fans are intolerant of even slight flaws.


I LIKE Star Trek VI. I've seen it more times than I can count and I will continue to watch it. I was simply taking the time to express that it doesn't quite measure up for me personally becuase of all the issues I listed. I wasn't aware this was "trolling" or asking for a bunch of $hit from people. Clearly, I was wrong! 


 


Wow.

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Report this Apr. 04 2012, 3:46 am

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> If you have some intelligent counterpoints to make other than just being an insulting twit, I'd be happy to debate.

>Otherwise, go take a dump in your hat, sir.

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Says the person who goes into every single thread and complains about its content. "It's supposed to be about MOVIES, not EPISODES!" "Oh great, ANOTHER anti-Abrams thread!" "I'm truly amazed that everybody doesn't share my opinion on everything!" "Against all odds, I'm still holding onto hope that one day I'll go into the TNG section and not find a Data thread."

Just saying.

 

Do I really go into EVERY thread and make these comments? Really?

And...I'm not quite sure how this relates to my being outright insulted, which is what I was responding to...

Just sayin'.


lol. Anytime someone makes an attempt to throw something back that someone already said, usually means they've been offended by it.


Looks like you might need a thicker skin around here.


You DO realize that there IS an irony in that you're the resident "No" man of the Star Trek boards.


http://www.startrek.com/boards-topic/33351961/more-seasons-of-the-original-star-trek-with-original-cast
http://www.startrek.com/boards-topic/33351805/star-trek-titan
http://www.startrek.com/boards-topic/33348051/borg-cube-vs-death-star
http://www.startrek.com/boards-topic/33351984/trailer-for-new-star-trek-movie
http://www.startrek.com/boards-topic/33351953/is-it-possible-that-data-has-emotions-but-he-just-doesn-t-know-it
http://www.startrek.com/boards-topic/33351959/episode-tomorrow-and-yesterday-was-stolen-by-speilberg
http://www.startrek.com/boards-topic/33350217/first-contact
http://www.startrek.com/boards-topic/33351569/star-trek-12-1?page=1


(didn't even have to look hard past the first 2 pages of those boards)


I'm surprised you haven't figured out yet that a lot of the discussions on here ARE trite, and many posters know that. They come here to purposefully engage in those fun and silly canon debates. If you're looking for a higher standard of intellectual conversations that deal with the character driven interactions and how they relate to the human condition, then you should probably find someplace else. You wont find it here.


Or else why feel engaged if everything and everyone seems so below you. It's like sticking around just to argue with other people for the sake of arguing. As if having only been kept around by THEIR topics so that, each time, a thread can be dismissed by measure whenever they come up.


(let's see if there's any more responses with "dump"ing references!)


Vger23

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Report this Apr. 04 2012, 10:27 am

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> If you have some intelligent counterpoints to make other than just being an insulting twit, I'd be happy to debate.

>Otherwise, go take a dump in your hat, sir.

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Says the person who goes into every single thread and complains about its content. "It's supposed to be about MOVIES, not EPISODES!" "Oh great, ANOTHER anti-Abrams thread!" "I'm truly amazed that everybody doesn't share my opinion on everything!" "Against all odds, I'm still holding onto hope that one day I'll go into the TNG section and not find a Data thread."

Just saying.

 

Do I really go into EVERY thread and make these comments? Really?

And...I'm not quite sure how this relates to my being outright insulted, which is what I was responding to...

Just sayin'.

lol. Anytime someone makes an attempt to throw something back that someone already said, usually means they've been offended by it.

Looks like you might need a thicker skin around here.

You DO realize that there IS an irony in that you're the resident "No" man of the Star Trek boards.

http://www.startrek.com/boards-topic/33351961/more-seasons-of-the-original-star-trek-with-original-cast
http://www.startrek.com/boards-topic/33351805/star-trek-titan
http://www.startrek.com/boards-topic/33348051/borg-cube-vs-death-star
http://www.startrek.com/boards-topic/33351984/trailer-for-new-star-trek-movie
http://www.startrek.com/boards-topic/33351953/is-it-possible-that-data-has-emotions-but-he-just-doesn-t-know-it
http://www.startrek.com/boards-topic/33351959/episode-tomorrow-and-yesterday-was-stolen-by-speilberg
http://www.startrek.com/boards-topic/33350217/first-contact
http://www.startrek.com/boards-topic/33351569/star-trek-12-1?page=1

(didn't even have to look hard past the first 2 pages of those boards)

I'm surprised you haven't figured out yet that a lot of the discussions on here ARE trite, and many posters know that. They come here to purposefully engage in those fun and silly canon debates. If you're looking for a higher standard of intellectual conversations that deal with the character driven interactions and how they relate to the human condition, then you should probably find someplace else. You wont find it here.

Or else why feel engaged if everything and everyone seems so below you. It's like sticking around just to argue with other people for the sake of arguing. As if having only been kept around by THEIR topics so that, each time, a thread can be dismissed by measure whenever they come up.

(let's see if there's any more responses with "dump"ing references!)


You are 100% correct. I absolutely cannot argue that fact (hi-lited above). Maybe it's my own unrealistic hopes that have done me in and continue to frustrate me.


It's clear to me now why so many good members have left this board. Maybe I was just holding out hope. But, to your point, it's only gotten worse (for those that value what you say this board won't provide), not better.


Thanks for pointing out the "trite" nature of this board to me. You've really hammered home the reality that has been frustrating me all along.


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Report this Apr. 07 2012, 2:21 am

My favorite was The Voyage Home then after i saw the TNG filmes that changed to Generations =D 


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Report this Apr. 07 2012, 7:52 pm

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>plothole in star trek II can someone explain why chekov remembers khan when he was not even on the enterprise in season 1 episode space seed it makes no sense was he hiding in the closet. he did not appear until season 2 of tos someone explain this plothole.

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Presumably Chekov was serving on the Enterprise at the time, though he wasn't yet on the senior staff. The running joke is that Chekov made Khan wait too long to use the bathroom, and Khan swore never to forget his face.


There's another plothole that always bugged me: how could the Reliant crew possibly mistake Ceti Alpha V for Ceti Alpha VI? Especially since Ceti Alpha VI exploded decades ago (how could Starfleet miss that, by the way?)


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Vger23

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Report this Apr. 07 2012, 7:53 pm

Obviously, Checkov WAS on the Enterprise, or Khan would not have recognized him. There's 430 people on the ship. It's quite reasonable that during the Season 1 timeframe of Star Trek TOS, Checkov was still a fresh-out and was assigned to the lower decks, perhaps on an off-shift.


But, logically, he was there or Khan would not have recognized him...so just because WE didn't see him doesn't mean he wasn't there.


Plothole explained.

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Report this Apr. 07 2012, 8:05 pm

I really enjoy The Search for Spock, though, The Wrath of Khan is my favorite movie. I love them all.

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Report this Apr. 07 2012, 9:12 pm

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>There's another plothole that always bugged me: how could the Reliant crew possibly mistake Ceti Alpha V for Ceti Alpha VI? Especially since Ceti Alpha VI exploded decades ago (how could Starfleet miss that, by the way?)


missing the excplosion itself could be easy to explain............starfleet had no outpost or ships in the area.


as for mistakeing Ceti Alpha V for Ceti Alpha VI?...............maybe the obital ship effects asll planatertary bodies in the system.?


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Report this Apr. 08 2012, 7:00 am

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as for mistakeing Ceti Alpha V for Ceti Alpha VI?...............maybe the obital ship effects asll planatertary bodies in the system.?


Yeah, but if there's only five planets in the system now, how could they think they're orbiting the sixth one?


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