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Blood Oath

guillermo.mejía

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Report this Feb. 15 2012, 5:22 am

So two days ago I saw 'Blood Oath' for the first time. I already knew about this episode and had read a synopsis before, but had never actually had the chance to watch. And it did not disapoint! I found it incredible to see the 3 original Klingons intereacting on the screen. It felt like Modern Trek really acknowledging TOS like TNG never could.


I will say I'm not sure what the reasoning was to sort of switch Koloth's and Kor's personalities. In 'The Trouble with Tribbles' Koloth seemed like this arrogant, yet witty Klingon politition rather than a worrior, and Kor in 'Errand of Mercy' was more of the serious leader. Yet in DS9 Koloth is far more serious with Kor being the underious one.


Can't complain about Jadzia's outfit in this episode either. I dunno why it caught my attention so much. Could be the fact that it seemed like a Klingon outfit, yet it wasn't with no actual armor. It was sad to see ( SPOILER !!! ) Kang and Koloth go, but they had such good deaths that I couldn't be upset about it.


What are some other opinions on this episode?


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Report this Feb. 15 2012, 9:29 am

It's a bit odd that Kor and Koloth's personalities got swapped, but that could just be the result of one hundred years passing by. People change, even Klingons.


I've always liked this episode, though I sometimes wonder if it actually used Jadzia well as the protagonist. The writers never seemed entirely sure of what they were doing with Dax's previous hosts -- the character seemed to change depending on what the episode required of her, and it just got chalked up to her past lives.


Still a fun episode.

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Report this Feb. 15 2012, 11:51 am

Haha, so far I have noticed that about Curzon. He understood Klings, he understood humans, he was peaceful, he swore a blood oath to kill, he was an ambassador, he mentored a Starfleet cadet....


The only constant seems to be that he was a bit of a womanizer.


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Report this Feb. 23 2012, 12:37 pm

It was interesting to see Dax acting like Curzon.  Rather disconcerting, though, isn't it?


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Report this Feb. 23 2012, 2:52 pm

I really liked DS9 and how they really referenced TOS a lot. Klingons, tribbles, mirror universe, all great.


Are you sure it isn't time for a colorful metaphor?

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Report this Feb. 24 2012, 5:07 am

Quote: OneDamnMinuteAdmiral @ Feb. 23 2012, 2:52 pm

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Well they had to. TNG, for several reasons did it's best to avoid any connectio to it.


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Report this Feb. 29 2012, 1:19 am

I love this episode


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Report this Feb. 29 2012, 6:21 am

Quote: guillermo.mejía @ Feb. 24 2012, 5:07 am

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>I really liked DS9 and how they really referenced TOS a lot. Klingons, tribbles, mirror universe, all great.

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Well they had to. TNG, for several reasons did it's best to avoid any connectio to it.


It makes sense to limit the references, though.  The series are approximately 80 years apart.  How often do you find yourself in situations that reference the activities of the same specific group of people from 80 years ago?

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Report this Mar. 01 2012, 6:02 am

Quote: Broadstorm @ Feb. 29 2012, 6:21 am

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>I really liked DS9 and how they really referenced TOS a lot. Klingons, tribbles, mirror universe, all great.

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Well they had to. TNG, for several reasons did it's best to avoid any connectio to it.

It makes sense to limit the references, though.  The series are approximately 80 years apart.  How often do you find yourself in situations that reference the activities of the same specific group of people from 80 years ago?

That's true. Unless you're a news station covering the economy and you reference the Great Depression all the time.


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Report this Mar. 02 2012, 4:22 pm

Kor as a Military Governor during war time would be a far more serious than Kor, civilian D'Har Master of waning power and influence. I don't see the swap here. Kor has changed yes but not into Koloth.


 


Koloth, on the other hand seemed to change far more than Kor. Koloth became rigid, unable or unwilling to even acknowledge any thing but his own views. Very set in his ways...


 


Michael Ansara played Kang perfectly IMHO.


 


I thought the whole 'albino' storyline was a bit weak but seeing those three Klingons onscreen again more than made up for it. 


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Report this Mar. 02 2012, 4:36 pm

I don't know what most will think, but despite his hatred for Klingons, the Albino looked Klingon-y to me.


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Report this Mar. 02 2012, 4:59 pm

Quote: guillermo.mejía @ Mar. 01 2012, 6:02 am

Quote: Broadstorm @ Feb. 29 2012, 6:21 am

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Quote: OneDamnMinuteAdmiral @ Feb. 23 2012, 2:52 pm

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>I really liked DS9 and how they really referenced TOS a lot. Klingons, tribbles, mirror universe, all great.

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Well they had to. TNG, for several reasons did it's best to avoid any connectio to it.

It makes sense to limit the references, though.  The series are approximately 80 years apart.  How often do you find yourself in situations that reference the activities of the same specific group of people from 80 years ago?

That's true. Unless you're a news station covering the economy and you reference the Great Depression all the time.


Yes, but that affects an entire country, and now with a more global economy, beyond, so that makes sense, but the same small group of people like the command staff of a single ship, and some of the people they encountered getting so much attention 80 years later is what I meant.  The Great Depression also defined the period, so if you are focusing on that, okay, but to keep bringing up all these different characters and situations all from a specific period, when the only thing they had in common back then was that they had each encountered the captain of a specific ship to which the new group of main characters have no direct link, seems to me to be weak storytelling.

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