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Who is your most HATED Trek character of all time?

finka

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Report this Feb. 10 2012, 3:06 am

I thought I find myself defending Wes Crucher, but what a susprise, there is this Kai who is hated even more! (didn't watch DS9 yet, so I don't know her).

When I thik about it I cannot say who I don't like.. Every character was special. I didn't like this guy from the Motion Picture, Decker.. He had crazy eyes and was pretty annoying


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OtakuJo

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Report this Feb. 10 2012, 3:21 am

Quote: donna.wheeler @ Feb. 09 2012, 11:26 pm

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>Wow, reading this, half of the time I'm thinking "WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE CRAZY?!" because I love the characters that you hate so much.

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We are posting


 


 


in detail


 


 


on a Star Trek fansite.


 


So -- while not for the reasons you attribute,


 


 


 


 


Yes. We are crazy.


 


(and for that I offer no apologies!)


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Hugues

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Report this Feb. 10 2012, 4:52 am

Quote: OtakuJo @ Feb. 10 2012, 3:21 am

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>Yes. We are crazy. 

>(and for that I offer no apologies!)

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It's abnormal to be normal in an abnormal world.


DS9 RULES!!!!!

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Report this Feb. 10 2012, 5:07 am

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>CAPTAIN KIRK- He never took his job seriously, he floated around the galaxy with his libido on overdrive.

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Riker for the same reason! OK and breaking Troi's heart at the same time.

Only joking - how could you hate Riker? I just thought him smug that's all.

 

IMO its difficult to 'hate' any Star Trek character. Even the enemies usually had some good reason for doing things or were insane. nuBSG had enemies that were easy to hate.

Riker ? I don't hate Riker, I just think Kirk was the biggest bloated ego driven skirt chasing, air-head in Space, Servalanfan, you know someone like that wouldn't last in a real Navy or Space Fleet. As for Riker, I only seen him with another women three times in SEVEN seasons, I WISHED he would been more romantic.


I  think it's more than three. If you watch Shades of Gray, there is at least three in that, which only counts seasons 1 and 2.


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Report this Feb. 10 2012, 9:30 am

Finka, the difference between Wesley Crusher and Winn Adami is that the Trek writers actually wanted you to like Wesley and hate Winn.


I mean, it seems the DS9 writers actually went out of their way to make us absolutely loathe Kai Winn! Ha.


As for Wesley? Well, Roddenberry has made it clear that three of the TNG characters represented himself at different times in his life:


Wesley = Roddenberry as a teenager


Riker = Roddenberry as a young man


Picard = Roddenberry as an older man


So yeah, again, we were actually supposed to like and respect Wesley.


(Apparently, Roddenberry was always astounded that fans hated Wesley...)


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lukey1

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Report this Feb. 10 2012, 9:33 am

Probably Q and lwaxana troi they were so anoying...

reli16309a

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Report this Feb. 12 2012, 8:14 am

THE BORG!!


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OtakuJo

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Report this Feb. 12 2012, 6:58 pm

Roddenberry was thinking "Man I would have loved to serve on a spaceship when I was a teenager." (Most likely) Which is why he named Wesley Crusher after himself. Wesley is a Mary Sue.


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CloudMinder2

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Report this Feb. 13 2012, 3:46 am

I found Mudd pretty tiresome, prticularly in 'I Mudd' - however he's good in the TAS Mudd episode


Also I disliked the children in Miri, that's one of my very least favourite episodes - contrastingly i think 'and the children shall lead' is a decent show, which i konw  lot of people don't


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Report this Feb. 13 2012, 1:14 pm

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>Roddenberry was thinking "Man I would have loved to serve on a spaceship when I was a teenager." (Most likely) Which is why he named Wesley Crusher after himself. Wesley is a Mary Sue.

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Unfortunately I do not get the reference; it must be from another region because Mary Sue means nothing to me.  Also, I think a lot of people would still love to be a member of a starship. 


I'm not placing such judgement on Wesley's character because of that; Don't like him 'cos I don't like him... "Mary Sue" is a term that started in the fanfiction community; another more formal term for the same concept is "author avatar" -- basically, a self-insert character to carry out the fantasies of the writer.


http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MarySue


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Report this Feb. 14 2012, 5:48 am

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>WHOEVER designed "The Doomsday Machine"....what a cold....premeditated thing to unleash on the Universe.

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I can't tell whether you're complimenting the episode or shooting it down.


Love that episode....should have been a first season show with the other classics.  Mirror Mirror, too.

TheDriver

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Report this Feb. 14 2012, 10:01 am

OtakuJo, did you not read my last post?


Roddenberry flat-out admitted that Wesley was based on himself as a teenager (and Riker was based on himself as a young man ... and Picard was based on himself as an older man).


To me, a Mary Sue represents an assumed "author avatar."


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CloudMinder2

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Report this Feb. 14 2012, 2:03 pm

Oh, and i can't stand that baby in The Corbomite Manouevre - what a stupid idea


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TheDriver

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Report this Feb. 14 2012, 8:45 pm

Then no tranya for you!



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OtakuJo

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Report this Feb. 15 2012, 3:28 am

Quote: TheDriver @ Feb. 14 2012, 10:01 am

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>OtakuJo, did you not read my last post?

>Roddenberry flat-out admitted that Wesley was based on himself as a teenager (and Riker was based on himself as a young man ... and Picard was based on himself as an older man).

>To me, a Mary Sue represents an assumed "author avatar."

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To be honest I can't remember if I did or not. Probably. This is all from -- what? -- two days ago? Three perhaps?


Assumed, or definite, all fall under the definition of "Mary Sue" as far as I see it and as far as any research I've ever done into the term. I may have read your last post and forgotten, but in any case I did already know about what Roddenberry said about Wesley. It doesn't in itself make Wesley a bad character. (Superman is also a Mary Sue -- or Marty Stu if you want to be particularly particular)


But the question that started that started this particular tangent was, I believe, "What was Roddenberry thinking?" by having a kid on the bridge... and that whole self-insertion bit pretty much gives the answer.


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