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Mankind's DESTINY where are we headed ?

DammitJim6200

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Report this Jan. 30 2012, 1:32 am

Look..Stop what you're doing, now, and listen, we are alone in the UNIVERSE...THe Bible says God created the Heavens and Earth, it says nothing about men on Mars or Alpha Centauri, we are it..No life has been discovered anywhere else in space..THe Bible says be fruitful and populate the Earth, then what ? will we ever evolve into something else or stay on Earth will we ever achieve that higher "conscience" like Vger ?

Invader_Wishfire

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Report this Jan. 30 2012, 2:51 am

Atheist point of view: Why shouldn't we go into the stars?


Christian point of view: The Bible doesn't address leaving Earth, so why not?


Pagan point of view: The same as the Christian point of view, minus the Bible part.


In other words, nowhere, anywhere, is it stated that we should stay on Earth.

Jim Kirk

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Report this Jan. 30 2012, 6:29 am

God has given us the ability to think and the desire to explore, it seems obvious to me that we are destined to leave.  But it may take another 1,000 years to get the technology right.  But we will get there.  Havent finished reading the bible yet, but god did create the earth & the heavens and I haven't seen any mention that he did or did not make any other intelligent species in any other parts of the heavens.  If we are alone it is up to us to go forth be fruitfull and multiply.  Maybe some day we will be the "Q"


 


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Beccs_

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Report this Jan. 30 2012, 10:19 am

The bible also says that the world is flat and the centre of the universe, that rabbits chew their cud, that Pi is exactly 3 and that bats are birds.


 


I wouldn't take it too seriously.

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Report this Jan. 30 2012, 10:39 am

Quote: DammitJim6200 @ Jan. 30 2012, 1:32 am

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>Look..Stop what you're doing, now, and listen, we are alone in the UNIVERSE...THe Bible says God created the Heavens and Earth, it says nothing about men on Mars or Alpha Centauri, we are it..No life has been discovered anywhere else in space..THe Bible says be fruitful and populate the Earth, then what ? will we ever evolve into something else or stay on Earth will we ever achieve that higher "conscience" like Vger ?

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I've read the the Bible from Genesis to Revelations and no where does it state that humans are alone in the universe. The Bible's sole purpose is to educate mankind about His Will and how to maintain a relationship with Him. It is not a science text or a collection of all the knowledge in the universe.


As for your assertion about not finding anything else in space, do you TRULY understand the vast distances of space and our limited technology? Or as we believers like to point out, absence of evidence is NOT evidence of absence. Humans haven't even fully catalogued all of the species on earth. There are vast stretches of the deep ocean we have no clue about.


Finally, the Bible clearly says God gave us free will. If we can find a way to successfully get off earth and live in other environments, then it will happen. The only things holding us back are technology and knowledge.


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Report this Jan. 30 2012, 11:47 am

Beershark

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Report this Jan. 30 2012, 6:06 pm

The Bible saya nothing about computers or the internet, yet they exist don't they? And since they are not in the bible, then they are not of god, and if they are not of god, why are you here, and since you are here on this board on the internet you used your computer to connect to then you must be headed STRAIGHT TO HELL!


Oh... it also says that God seperated the light from the dark and called the light day and the dark night BEFORE HE CREATED THE SUN AND THE MOON AND THE STARS. So where did the light come from?


 


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DammitJim6200

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Report this Jan. 30 2012, 9:48 pm

Quote: Beccs_ @ Jan. 30 2012, 10:19 am

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>The bible also says that the world is flat and the centre of the universe, that rabbits chew their cud, that Pi is exactly 3 and that bats are birds.

>I wouldn't take it too seriously.

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 Stop it, beccs you know, that's not true Isaiah 40:22, it states "THE IS ONE DWELLING ABOVE THE CIRCLE OF EARTH.." YEARS before science discovered it was ROUND.

tyson.millington

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Report this Jan. 30 2012, 9:56 pm

Nor does it state it is the center of the universe


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DammitJim6200

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Report this Jan. 30 2012, 10:05 pm

Quote: Treknoir @ Jan. 30 2012, 10:39 am

Quote: DammitJim6200 @ Jan. 30 2012, 1:32 am

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>Look..Stop what you're doing, now, and listen, we are alone in the UNIVERSE...THe Bible says God created the Heavens and Earth, it says nothing about men on Mars or Alpha Centauri, we are it..No life has been discovered anywhere else in space..THe Bible says be fruitful and populate the Earth, then what ? will we ever evolve into something else or stay on Earth will we ever achieve that higher "conscience" like Vger ?

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I've read the the Bible from Genesis to Revelations and no where does it state that humans are alone in the universe. The Bible's sole purpose is to educate mankind about His Will and how to maintain a relationship with Him. It is not a science text or a collection of all the knowledge in the universe.

As for your assertion about not finding anything else in space, do you TRULY understand the vast distances of space and our limited technology? Or as we believers like to point out, absence of evidence is NOT evidence of absence. Humans haven't even fully catalogued all of the species on earth. There are vast stretches of the deep ocean we have no clue about.

Finally, the Bible clearly says God gave us free will. If we can find a way to successfully get off earth and live in other environments, then it will happen. The only things holding us back are technology and knowledge.


treknoir, listen to me, intelligent life such as ours hasn't been discovered yet, sure space is vast our own solar system goes on for millions of miles, but so far we are the real deal, we can speculate on many things, certain creatures on earth are claim to exist like a large sasquach, until it is DISCOVERED it remains a myth.


Yes, God did give us free will, but he never said anything about leaving Earth did he ?..God express his purpose for humanity when he said "Be fruitful and become many and fill the Earth."(Gen. 1:28) If we are suppose to be in space that's not the original plan of the creator.   

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Report this Jan. 30 2012, 10:05 pm

Quote: DammitJim6200 @ Jan. 30 2012, 9:48 pm

Quote: Beccs_ @ Jan. 30 2012, 10:19 am

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>The bible also says that the world is flat and the centre of the universe, that rabbits chew their cud, that Pi is exactly 3 and that bats are birds.

>I wouldn't take it too seriously.

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 Stop it, beccs you know, that's not true Isaiah 40:22, it states "THE IS ONE DWELLING ABOVE THE CIRCLE OF EARTH.." YEARS before science discovered it was ROUND.


But NOT years before it was translated.....


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DammitJim6200

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Report this Jan. 30 2012, 10:05 pm

Quote: Treknoir @ Jan. 30 2012, 10:39 am

Quote: DammitJim6200 @ Jan. 30 2012, 1:32 am

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>Look..Stop what you're doing, now, and listen, we are alone in the UNIVERSE...THe Bible says God created the Heavens and Earth, it says nothing about men on Mars or Alpha Centauri, we are it..No life has been discovered anywhere else in space..THe Bible says be fruitful and populate the Earth, then what ? will we ever evolve into something else or stay on Earth will we ever achieve that higher "conscience" like Vger ?

>

I've read the the Bible from Genesis to Revelations and no where does it state that humans are alone in the universe. The Bible's sole purpose is to educate mankind about His Will and how to maintain a relationship with Him. It is not a science text or a collection of all the knowledge in the universe.

As for your assertion about not finding anything else in space, do you TRULY understand the vast distances of space and our limited technology? Or as we believers like to point out, absence of evidence is NOT evidence of absence. Humans haven't even fully catalogued all of the species on earth. There are vast stretches of the deep ocean we have no clue about.

Finally, the Bible clearly says God gave us free will. If we can find a way to successfully get off earth and live in other environments, then it will happen. The only things holding us back are technology and knowledge.


treknoir, listen to me, intelligent life such as ours hasn't been discovered yet, sure space is vast our own solar system goes on for millions of miles, but so far we are the real deal, we can speculate on many things, certain creatures on earth are claim to exist like a large sasquach, until it is DISCOVERED it remains a myth.


Yes, God did give us free will, but he never said anything about leaving Earth did he ?..God express his purpose for humanity when he said "Be fruitful and become many and fill the Earth."(Gen. 1:28) If we are suppose to be in space that's not the original plan of the creator.   

Beershark

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Report this Jan. 30 2012, 10:08 pm

Quote: DammitJim6200 @ Jan. 30 2012, 10:05 pm

Quote: Treknoir @ Jan. 30 2012, 10:39 am

Quote: DammitJim6200 @ Jan. 30 2012, 1:32 am

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>Look..Stop what you're doing, now, and listen, we are alone in the UNIVERSE...THe Bible says God created the Heavens and Earth, it says nothing about men on Mars or Alpha Centauri, we are it..No life has been discovered anywhere else in space..THe Bible says be fruitful and populate the Earth, then what ? will we ever evolve into something else or stay on Earth will we ever achieve that higher "conscience" like Vger ?

>

I've read the the Bible from Genesis to Revelations and no where does it state that humans are alone in the universe. The Bible's sole purpose is to educate mankind about His Will and how to maintain a relationship with Him. It is not a science text or a collection of all the knowledge in the universe.

As for your assertion about not finding anything else in space, do you TRULY understand the vast distances of space and our limited technology? Or as we believers like to point out, absence of evidence is NOT evidence of absence. Humans haven't even fully catalogued all of the species on earth. There are vast stretches of the deep ocean we have no clue about.

Finally, the Bible clearly says God gave us free will. If we can find a way to successfully get off earth and live in other environments, then it will happen. The only things holding us back are technology and knowledge.

treknoir, listen to me, intelligent life such as ours hasn't been discovered yet, sure space is vast our own solar system goes on for millions of miles, but so far we are the real deal, we can speculate on many things, certain creatures on earth are claim to exist like a large sasquach, until it is DISCOVERED it remains a myth.

Yes, God did give us free will, but he never said anything about leaving Earth did he ?..God express his purpose for humanity when he said "Be fruitful and become many and fill the Earth."(Gen. 1:28) If we are suppose to be in space that's not the original plan of the creator.   


And yet we are supposed accept god as more than a myth even though there is no prove of his/her exsistance?


There is no mention of airplanes or man being able to fly, so wouldn't that be against gods plan?


No mention of automobiles, so cars are evil?


No mention of modern surgery techniques, indoor plumbing or the internet.


The Patriots crushed (literaly) Tim Tebow, so Tom Brady must be the anti-christ?


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Beccs_

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Report this Jan. 31 2012, 11:24 am

Quote: DammitJim6200 @ Jan. 30 2012, 9:48 pm

Quote: Beccs_ @ Jan. 30 2012, 10:19 am

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>The bible also says that the world is flat and the centre of the universe, that rabbits chew their cud, that Pi is exactly 3 and that bats are birds.

>I wouldn't take it too seriously.

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 Stop it, beccs you know, that's not true Isaiah 40:22, it states "THE IS ONE DWELLING ABOVE THE CIRCLE OF EARTH.." YEARS before science discovered it was ROUND.


 


Wrong.  That quote would have some merit to the authors having knowledge that the earth was basically, though not accurately, a sphere IF it had said "the BALL of the Earth".  The ancient Hebrews did have a word for ball, which would have been more accurate.


The Greeks knew the Earth was a sphere.  One measured the circumference using sticks and shadows and managed to get the size within a few hundred metres.  Much more impressive than the desperate attempts by apologists to reinterpret their little book.


 


As an aside, our local predator is whining about me again on the only website it hasn't been banned from multiple times - the Mutt board.


 


Loser!

tyson.millington

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Report this Jan. 31 2012, 2:36 pm

where in The Bible does it say Pi is 3


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