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Report this Mar. 19 2012, 5:55 pm

Quote: AveryM @ Feb. 10 2012, 6:13 am

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>." Regardless, if CBS dosent want to make a new series, then sell the rights to sci fi or AMC.

>-AMEN, Brother!!!!

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Oh gawd no!


Anything I've ever seen that was an original SiFi production has been awful. Poor writing, low quality of production, predictable plots and wooden acting!


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Report this Mar. 19 2012, 10:26 pm

Quote: q_wanna_b @ Mar. 19 2012, 5:39 pm

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>At first I thought bring in Riker and Troi was an interesting idea.  I think that maybe it COULD have worked- but it didn't.  It was very poorly done.  Just a cameo by Troi and Riker would heve been enough IF they were going to be in it at all.  The plot didn't really make much snese either.  After all those years of kicking ass, Enterprise was going to lose people to those intergalactic riff-raff?  Tripp's actions made no sense.  I feel like they really short-changed his character.  he could have found a smart way to beat those guys.  I also really didn't get what Riker was supposed to get out of all this. 

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The trouble was, and I think I've said this before, they tried to cram too many threads into a single episode. And the Troi / Riker / Pegasus angle just made an already messy plot even more complicated. And all these extraneous "bits" in the story diluted its focus and made it harder to see what the story was supposed to be about. They started with some half-decent ideas, and if they'd only thought to cut out a few of these elements (such as Troi and Riker) they could have made their final episode simpler and therefore a lot more effective.


"Too many cooks spoil the broth", as the old saying goes.


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Report this Mar. 25 2012, 1:45 am

1. Andorian mining connection maybe? It was over a gem after all...


2. Shran lied about their speed in desperation to get his daughter back. They were about to moth ball the ship, maybe it was a lazy day (:


3. Tripp was OBBSESED about getting Arcer home, he kew there guns had no stun (: it was still tactical alert give sucurity a break (: and maybe they had cloak to get right up close...


4. He made the explosion directional, hed know how id bet....


5. Losing a child can affect a person in PROFOUND ways, some times you just cant stand to look at the other parent just from the pain....


 


AND lets keep in mind that was what? 10years later, culturs and tech would have change over that time and with the formation federation being formed im sure


IDK, this is just were my mind went when I watched the episode regaurding these points.

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Report this Mar. 27 2012, 10:29 pm

The beat was off. It felt like a whole new team of writers and director were brought in. I didn't get it. I did like Riker's/Chef's one-on-one with everyone. I love those characters and basked in their camaraderie. I appreciated T'Pol's emoting over Trip-they did have two children together after all. No way did they just end after Terra Prime. That final scene of TP was amazing where they just let each other be themselves--human in tears and vulcan stoicism--no barriers, no defenses. You don't write that and just bail.


What was Trip's wink all about?


So my husband and I just crammed all four seasons into two months--we finished Sunday night. I'm so bummed it's over! We're starting TOS next week. Hopefully This will help me move on.

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Report this Apr. 11 2012, 5:12 pm

I just finished Enterprise and this episode really let me down. The fourth season was absolutely amazing, and then they give us this? I know they wanted to pay homage to the other series and such, but this was just a bad episode. It could have been done a lot better, in my opinion.


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Report this Apr. 11 2012, 5:17 pm

Quote: OtakuJo @ Mar. 19 2012, 10:26 pm

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>The trouble was, and I think I've said this before, they tried to cram too many threads into a single episode. And the Troi / Riker / Pegasus angle just made an already messy plot even more complicated. And all these extraneous "bits" in the story diluted its focus and made it harder to see what the story was supposed to be about. They started with some half-decent ideas, and if they'd only thought to cut out a few of these elements (such as Troi and Riker) they could have made their final episode simpler and therefore a lot more effective.

>"Too many cooks spoil the broth", as the old saying goes.

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100% agreed


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Report this Apr. 13 2012, 5:50 pm

I have to disagree with everyone that Enterprise's series finale was that awful. Yes I was disappointed with it and while I haven't seen it in a long time what I remember that basicaly didn't work for me was having Commander Riker and Counselor Troi in it looking back at it as history. I just didn't care for that but I liked most of the rest of it. But it's still not as bad as the stupid TOS episodes Spock's Brain and The Alternative Factor. The two worst episodes of Star Trek ever.

Ed

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Report this Apr. 13 2012, 6:08 pm

nothing is forever

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Report this Apr. 15 2012, 10:37 am

I don't know, I think the second part of In a Mirror Darkly was great.


 


 


Ooooooooooooooh you mean the last episode of Star Trek TNG "These are the Voyages".

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Report this Apr. 15 2012, 2:58 pm

The final episode was horrible and nearly killed the entire franchise for me. Thank the cosmos for JJ Adrams.


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Report this Apr. 25 2012, 8:21 pm

Quote: AveryM @ Jan. 24 2012, 1:24 pm

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>We just finished watching all the Enterprise episodes on Netflix.  I really liked most of the Enterprise series, I thought the story lines were good (well except for the "In a Mirror Darkly I&II, those were so bad we just skipped them) and I liked how they frequently picked up from the previous episode, there was a continuity that made them more interesting.

>BUT..that final episode?  That beyond sucked, the two who wrote that ought never be allowed to ever write again, seriously.  There was just so much WRONG with it.

>1.  Shran got mixed up with "the wrong crowd" to the point that he had to fake his own death and go into hiding?  Shran? Nuh-uh, wouldn't happen. Absolutely not. 

>2.  Enterprise is overtaken and attacked by a small vessel that can't go faster than Warp 4? And nobody saw them coming on long-range scanners?  Nuh-uh. It was a cinematized version on the Holodeck. There was probably some boring technobabble explanation during the real thing,   but it still doesn't make sense.

>3.  Enterprise is BOARDED by the agrressors, Archer and Tripp fight with them in the ship corridor, Tripp gets the aliens to knock Archer unconscious, convinces them to let him access some equipment panels, and then blows them all up with a plasma overload.  Archer regains consciousness, and stumbles over to find Tripp.  ALL WITHOUT SECURITY SHOWING UP.  Seriously? Nuh-uh. Again, it was cinematized, but still doesn't make sense.

>4.  The plasma explosion was enough to kill all the aliens 6-10 feet away and blow away a section of the corridor, but Tripp survived with fairly minor external injuries and fried lungs long enough to converse in sickbay.  Reeeally?  Nuh-uh. This one makes sense for the "movie version" of an event.

>5.  Tripp & T'Pol.  So the couple who were joined so closely that they shared mind-space even with light-years between them, just decided to 'break up' six years ago?  And this after confronting the death of their daughter and the realization that they really, really loved each other?  Oh c'mon!! Nuh-uh! I have no explanation for this part.

>I mean, it was bad enough that the final episode of the series was really all about a character from another series entirely (Riker), but there was nothing that even made any sense in this episode.  I'm all for "willing suspension of disbelief" but the writers have to do their part, too.  This was so clearly just slapped together without any thought or reason, it should just be deleted from the archives as nothing more than a bad joke.  At least that's what I've done in my own mind.  As far as I'm concerned this episode never happened and I will probably avoid anything that is written by Berman and Braga ever again.

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Report this Apr. 25 2012, 8:27 pm

Quote: Trip&tpol4ever @ Mar. 27 2012, 10:29 pm

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>The beat was off. It felt like a whole new team of writers and director were brought in. I didn't get it. I did like Riker's/Chef's one-on-one with everyone. I love those characters and basked in their camaraderie. I appreciated T'Pol's emoting over Trip-they did have two children together after all. No way did they just end after Terra Prime. That final scene of TP was amazing where they just let each other be themselves--human in tears and vulcan stoicism--no barriers, no defenses. You don't write that and just bail.

>What was Trip's wink all about?

>So my husband and I just crammed all four seasons into two months--we finished Sunday night. I'm so bummed it's over! We're starting TOS next week. Hopefully This will help me move on.

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Two children?


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Report this Apr. 25 2012, 10:51 pm

yes, they "had" a son and a daughter


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Report this Apr. 27 2012, 12:01 pm

hi to All the final episode was Link awesome i watched it and i think was good realised by the actors and directors

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Report this Apr. 27 2012, 6:54 pm

Two children?



Lorian in E2 and Elizabeth in Terra Prime.


I guess whether you count Lori depends on interpretation, but I would count him. They both knew of his existence, however temporary.


Is that who you were thinking of TT4E?


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