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Idea for a new Star Trek motion picture.

Lula Klos

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Report this Jan. 22 2012, 3:59 pm

It would be interesting to explore the Borg's own history, traceable to the history of Species 1, which turns out to be homo sapiens!

Perhaps the Borg started as a well-meaning experiment in cybernetically assisted communalism, and an experiment that we all know the terrible results of.

Implicit in this story line is the existence of an "off switch" for the (presumably) AI mutation that caused it all, (maybe after becoming aware of human history and the competitive nature of existence).

The exploration of the Borg's history would be set in the context of a massive invasion, (with new technology including trans-galactic travel), on the entire galaxy.

At the end, we are left with new friends (including the thousands of species assimilated by the Borg), the keys to the galaxy, and the next stage in the Star Trek adventure!

flottanna

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Report this Jan. 23 2012, 9:18 am

I always thought it might have been cool to connect to origins of the borg with species that remade Vger. \


Your idea is sound.


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Lula Klos

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Report this Jan. 23 2012, 6:02 pm

Thanks for your seal of approval, flottanna.

Although I am more of a fan than most people I know, I haven't devoted enough time to the Star Trek universe to be sure that my idea was a logical fit.

I was not aware of the v-ger connection. It gives the story another layer of meaning.

What I had in mind was an ancient pan-galactic species that in its final act before extinction, reaches out to the idyllic experimental colony, (under the leadership of the brilliant Dr. Ingmar Borg), in order to bestow their legacy, knowlege, etc.

Of course, something unexpected happens that changes the course of the galaxy's history. First contact turns into a nightmare when the colonists' natural apprehension causes the cybernetic AI that manages their communication to undergo an unforseen mutation as a protective measure. The mutation turns the colonists into the first batch of our beloved assimilators.

Not expecting to be attacked, let alone by an aggressive, rapidly adaptive technology, the members of the dying species are unprepared to defend themselves. In the ensuing battle, they are wiped out, and the Borg is stranded in the Delta Quadrant.

The Borg AI is temporarily damaged in the battle, destroying key portions of its memory, including the Borg's benevolent origins and the answer to the key question: the identity of Species 1.

Cut to 20 or so years after Voyager when a Borg survey vessel discovers wreckage from the battle with the dying pan-galactic species. In the wreckage is the technology that will enable the Borg to dominate the galaxy. The wreckage also contains information on the Borg's origin.

The film could begin with views of Borg invasion forces over the major planets in the ST universe, with assimilation as a done deal.

Anyone else feel like getting creative & fill in some of the blanks?


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Lula Klos

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Report this Jan. 24 2012, 7:14 am


What happens at the end of the film, with all the assimilated people?
 
The hero(s) convince the Borg AI to repair itself in accordance with its original function and benevolent purpose. The cybernetic implants are automatically deleted from each Borg, except for one neural implant that will enable them in the future to connect to the Borg AI at will.
 
The Unimatrix Zero episodes hinted at the benevolent possibilities of the Borg AI.
 
The Borg AI "web" ends up being one of the major new technologies in the ST universe, in addition to trans-galactic drives, and perhaps wormhole portals. Why not? If Stargate can "beam" people, then Star Trek should be able to have wormhole portals.


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Secret Trekky

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Report this Jan. 24 2012, 12:16 pm

i think your idea hassome merit, everyoone loves the borg, they were the most popular episodes when the Borg were involved. Who knows, maybe there is something still inside Picards head that helps trigger or identify with the Borg AI as he is no longer Borg and closer to what the original species were in the first place as a human, but with a small bit of Borg Tech buried deep inside his brain that could not be remobed but has been, since his De-Assimilation from the collective, and somehow, its triggered when the Borg AI finally permeates the Alpha quadrant, signal coming from it is stronger. Im not saying Picard should be in the movie but for a small part in the beginning or middle or even end, but i think he should have something to do with repairing the Borg AI to its original function as he is the epitome of what it was centuries past. The Borg AI can use him as a blue print for what the Bog can become, without all the prosthetics, back in control of their lives, but still able to communicate with the Borg AI at will.


Something like that. Picard has bee done in the movies in my opinion, but he is the most identifiable with the Borg having been assimilated in the past, and who knows, maybe him and Seven team up for a couple minutes during the Climax of the movie.


I think its a good idea and i would watch it.

flottanna

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Report this Jan. 24 2012, 12:34 pm

If only my company had the money to do this I would be down sadly we are much too small lol


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Lula Klos

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Report this Jan. 24 2012, 5:20 pm

I like your ideas, Secret Trekky. Piccard and Seven would be natural participants in some way, as would Janeway. Thanks for the vote of confidence.
 
Just playing with their toy set, flottanna, presumably where I can be seen by them doing it. Hopefully it will help inspire them to start playing with it with love again.
 
To envision the properly functioning Borg AI Web, imagine the Internet we know with thought connectivity. Always off, unless you want to connect. News, information, entertainment and communication, all a thought away, partly experienced through a heads-up display overlaid on the mind. Like the Internet we know, it would come with its share of challenges which can be explored for additional story lines.
 
One of the things I like about this particular story line is that despite all the dazzling new technology and the impossible challenge, it is the simple human ability to persuade that turns the nightmare into a dream and repairs the damage. Maybe a beauty & beast variation.

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Lula Klos

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Report this Jan. 25 2012, 4:26 pm

A little more detail on how the Borg is left stranded in the Delta Quadrant...


Rather than destroy them, the advanced species throws the Borg colonists across the galaxy and back in time, to the only possible time and place that could lead to the desired outcome! The advanced species, I'll call them the Serafites for now, are only just experimenting with time, but their technology is advanced enough to scan time & space, calculate probabilities, and transport a limited payload to the desired coordinates. They do it a split second before their vessel is destroyed by the Borg colonists.


The idyllic experimental colony is one of the first human colonies outside our solar system, one that disappeared mysteriously. No one could have logically made the connection between them and what they became. But Q knew all along! And the true reason behind his premature introduction to the Borg was to correct for the Serafites' slight miscalculation in time!

Lula Klos

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Report this Jan. 25 2012, 5:02 pm

I'm not sure what you mean, Kenneth18, but I would love to see a new cutting-edge movie & series.


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Report this Jan. 25 2012, 5:16 pm

What about some of the newer books about the USS Aventine?


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Lula Klos

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Report this Jan. 25 2012, 5:45 pm



I'm not familiar with the books, miklamar. Please tell me more.




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Report this Jan. 26 2012, 7:07 am

Quote: Lula Klos @ Jan. 25 2012, 5:45 pm

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> >I'm not familiar with the books, miklamar. Please tell me more.

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I think he's talking about the Destiny Trilogy of books by David Mack, which is a TNG crossover, including the USS Enterprise, the USS Titan and the USS Avantine, under the command of recently promoted Captain Ezri Dax.


These 3 books narrate the creation of the Borg threat and it's final resolution, and how the Borg almost destroyed the Federation once and for all. The series is now about 2 1/2 to 3 years old, and has shaped all TNG novels past this event.


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Lula Klos

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Report this Jan. 26 2012, 7:10 am

Looking beyond the motion picture, there is a new universe of ideas to explore.

For example, it is natural to assume that upon graduating to trans-galactic travel, the new Galactic Federation would get a visit similar in purpose to the visit paid by the Vulcans to Earth upon its graduation to warp travel. Unlike Earth's first contact with the Vulcans, first contact with the Apollosian Republic comes in the form of a difficult test.

The Apollosian Republic has represented the citizens of the massive elliptical Apollo galaxy for almost a thousand years. They are all members of a single species that was "seeded" throughout that galaxy by the Serafites. They are genetically related to the Serafites, and similar in appearance. The major difference between the Serafites and the Apollosians is that the Apollosians were genetically engineered from early in their evolution with a resistance to various forms of radiation.

Apollosians have a philosophy of life that is similar to the Vulcans' and they are similar in temperament. This leads to a humorously competitive relationship between those two species.


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Lula Klos

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Report this Jan. 26 2012, 7:14 am

Thanks, Guillermo, I looked into it a little on the Star Trek wiki.


If the 2009 movie can create an alternate timeline where a psychopath destroys Vulcan, then it should be possible to contradict some of the lesser known stories.


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Lula Klos

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Report this Jan. 26 2012, 2:12 pm

As for new villains, I imagine a species similar to the Hirogen except with a great deal more ambition and power.


They don't hunt, eat and keep trophies on a small scale. They do entire species.


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