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Jul. 27 2012, 11:01 am
Quote: JK1701 @ Jul. 27 2012, 10:34 am | >
>I haven't seen the episodes of Enterprise involving the augments but like once (Alas, I have been unable to find the fourth season of Enterprise on DVD), but if they happened in the 1990s, how was it that Arik Soong and his augments were still around when Enterprise was in the 2160s? I honestly don't remember how that was explained.
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Arik Soong wasnt part of the wars in the 90's, he was just a scientist [mad maybe?] from Archers time that felt the band on hument genetic engernering was wrong.
So, he got the job as the head of Cold Station [what ever number] which was a facility that stored the ungrown embryo's of thounnds of augments.
He stold a few [not sure on how many] of the embryo's and ran off.Those were the ones that grew up to be Maliki and the other grown agumernts we saw in the 3 part story.
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Jul. 27 2012, 11:09 am
Oh, ok. Gotcha. Makes more sense now.
Ahh, Kirk, my old friend. Do you know the Klingon proverb which tells us revenge is a dish that is best served cold? It's very cold....in space.
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Jul. 27 2012, 11:14 am
glad I could help clear things up |
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Jul. 27 2012, 2:12 pm
And he's right, whether he is or not. 
Ahh, Kirk, my old friend. Do you know the Klingon proverb which tells us revenge is a dish that is best served cold? It's very cold....in space.
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Jul. 27 2012, 3:55 pm
And he's right, whether he is or not.
You just have to love those two don't you Frustrated...
the place would be drab without 'em 
Not QUITE memorized EVERY episodes' dialogue, but seen every episode except some DS9 and Treklife, however, it's safe to say I'm a Trekkie, I'm proud of it, and I don't care whether other folks like either the the term or the show, because I LOVE both!
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Jul. 27 2012, 7:07 pm
Quote: JK1701 @ Jul. 27 2012, 2:12 pm | >
>And he's right, whether he is or not.
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or.................
maybe I'm right when I claim to be and you cant prove otherwise............so far you havent been able to.
No hard feeling thou
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Jul. 27 2012, 9:34 pm
I haven't seen Enterprise yet, but would like to. |
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Jul. 27 2012, 9:42 pm
Quote: Ultra Trek @ Jul. 27 2012, 9:34 pm | >
>I haven't seen Enterprise yet, but would like to.
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Do it. It's a great series...especially seasons 3 and 4. I think Archer might even be my favorite captain.
"The future is in the hands of those who explore... And from all the beauty they discover while crossing perpetually receding frontiers, they develop for nature and for humankind an infinite love." - Jacques Yves Cousteau
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Jul. 27 2012, 9:44 pm
Is it still to the spirit of Gene ROddenberry's ideas? |
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Jul. 27 2012, 10:14 pm
Quote: Ultra Trek @ Jul. 27 2012, 9:44 pm | >
>Is it still to the spirit of Gene ROddenberry's ideas?
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Absolutely, if such ideals revolve around friendship, co-operation, etc.
Well, season 3 might be an exception in that it's a much different format than you're probably used to. But it's still a great season, and very important to the development of the show and characters.
"The future is in the hands of those who explore... And from all the beauty they discover while crossing perpetually receding frontiers, they develop for nature and for humankind an infinite love." - Jacques Yves Cousteau
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Jul. 28 2012, 10:00 am
Yes. Star Trek dealt with these issues, and proved so much, about representation. |
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Jul. 28 2012, 8:42 pm
Yes. Star Trek dealt with these issues, and proved so much, about representation.
......"It's kind of like a 'Wagon train' to the stars." Gene Roddenberry to Robert Justman.
The only point on which Mitchz95 and myself seem to disagree about Enterprise is that whilst I, personally, enjoyed season 3 very much when I watched it after obtaining the full 4 seasons, I, like I believe many other fans, did not like it during its original TV run, since I found it too similar in concept to the recently finished Voyager, and felt it showed a lack of creativity/originality on the part of the writers; HOWEVER, some of the slow burn storylines it spawned that ran on into season 4 turned into some fantastic later episodes.
Not QUITE memorized EVERY episodes' dialogue, but seen every episode except some DS9 and Treklife, however, it's safe to say I'm a Trekkie, I'm proud of it, and I don't care whether other folks like either the the term or the show, because I LOVE both!
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Aug. 07 2012, 2:09 pm
I was a fanatic Trek fan at one point and I can tell you exactly when I stopped watching. August 2001 (or was it 2000?). A friend and I watched all of DS9 (the final VHS had only recently come out). All of it in a couple of weeks, the last season in a day. I was wiped out. The quality of DS9 was far beyond what the TNG movies and Voyager were achieving and I simply couldn't go back. When Enterprise was announced, I must admit, I had zero interest. I still played on BotF and Klingon Academy occasionally, but didn't even bother to finish with Voyager (I think I watched the last episode) or try Enterprise.
Now, over the last few years I have rewatched TOS, TNG and DS9 and have just started to watch Enterprise. I can see why I failed. There was a lot of potential and watching the early exploration of pre-Federation space is intriguing, but the acting is certainly the worst of all five series, the stories are often rehashes of TOS, TNG, VOY and the odd DS9. Episodes are spattered with cliches that border on fanfic (I'm currently watching an episode inwhich T'Pol and Archer are tied up and fall upon each other, breast-face; shamefully trite). If I wasn't so determined to give it a chance and watch it, then I'd turn it off. I imagine that any casual Trekkies changed the channels for similar reasons when it aired.
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Aug. 09 2012, 12:33 pm
Normal_Nerds, as the famous saying goes, even though it was not said by Voltaire as once believed, "I disagree with everything you say, but I would defend with my life your right to say it!" Of course DS9 was going to be revolutionary in Trek circles - no pun on a revolving space station intended! - it was based on a completely different concept than both of its predecessors! It was also the newest series at the time, with all the advantages of new Fx technology that had been developed the hard way for the earlier incarnations, and, it could virtually write its own ticket since it was based on two sides of a worm hole, therefore could create anything it liked on the far side because there was no previous evidence to contradict it! I do disagree about Voyager also, as well as Enterprise, since your comments leave me asking myself, 'What exactly does this [ahem] fan want from the franchise?'! What is wrong with a little humour (Enterprise-breasts-etc.? The aspect that made Enterprise creative and fresh is the very thing you dismiss as trite i.e. gritty, risque, rough hewn, meandering (limited set missions in favour of simple discovery), by viewing everything through DS9-tinted glasses influenced and strengthened by the nostalgia of remembering 'THAT great summer when me and my mate......'!! Thank you for your input nonetheless, Pete1873 |
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Aug. 10 2012, 8:18 pm
Enterprise died because the first 3 seasons were uninteresting, and the fanbase dwindled beyond repair.
Also, it had been photon torpedoed :)
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