Star Trek

I, too, feel that Kathryn IS Voyager.YES, they certainly haven't done that to the other captains, but for Kirk, in the canon films. We can take some comfort, in that Kath remains alive, officially.  I some time ago was going to add my voice to the group calling for her return; she's, as I've said here often, my second favorite female character in all ST.However, like Matthias Russell, I was turned away, by a request for what I felt to be too much personal information required. But, my heart is still with all those, who wish to see her come back. MR may have a point, in that, well, one may not be able to judge her lack of prsesence, as a prerequisite to liking the later STV novels, but, eh..I'll take my chances, that it's NOT the same. The folks who do the latest action figs should run a Voyager line, but, well, I think that depends, as others have I believe pointed out, on what is most popular/sellable. One thing I do wish in a way they hadn't done, cinematically, is have Janeway be promoted to admiral, and sideline her, as they TRIED to do Jim Kirk. You can read how well that went, in the st novels, which precede ST:TMP. Like him, she is born to be an explorer-and deserves very much to continue the great adventure...well, she is in this Voyager fan's fic, and ever will. KATHRYN LIVES...regardless, in our hearts, and minds, and many thanks to Kate, for bringing her to life so well....

You're right about Neelix leaving in the series. But why not bring him back in the books?

As for Neelix's guest appearance in the Voyager relaunch books, I'm not that interested because there are too many good characters from the series missing in those books. Besides that, I'm always scared that someone of the old favorites will be killed off.

As for Kes and Neelix in the mirror universe, no I don't think I want to read about Mirror Evil kes and Mirror Evil Neelix.

No, I haven't read any of Kirsten Beyer's books due to "The Janeway case". If I will read them in the future depends on how the characters from the TV series are treated.

As for letter campaigns and petitions, it's all about who you are dealing with. I must admit that I had a very negative experience when I participated in a letter campaign which was about having Kes re-instated as a main character in Voyager again. The reply from those in charge of the TV series was "Fury", a real spit in the faces of the Kes fans. However, it's always worth trying. You'll never achieve anything if you keep quiet. So send in those mails and petitions. Never surrender!

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And once this effort is over, Syn.Sixx, perhaps you guys can start emailing Diamond Select Toys to put out Voyager figures.  I want a Janeway figure so I have all of the captains and wouldn't mind Seven and Doctors figs as well.

If Janeway's death bothers you, it should bother you that Janeway is the only captain Art Asylum/DST has not made a figure of.

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Amen! I want a decent Janeway! Sideshow Collectibles put out a Seven of Nine, but her face is...off, especially for the near $300 price tag. They did a far better job on their G.I. Joe line. For some reason, when it comes to women, most manufacturers screw up horribly.

Actually, Mulgrew does care about Janeway. A large part of her is Janeway. Jeri Taylor may have created Janeway, but Mulgrew *made* her and invested a lot of herself into the character.

The interviews I read she was a little dissapointed, but when realized Janeway was more so in a state of flux with the Q rather than truly dead as being a companion to Lady Q, she then joked that she wish it was John DeLancie. 

Neelix spoiler-----it seems he will have a regular on and off apperances as long as Voyager and it's fleet is parading around the Delta Quadrant. I won't be too suprised if they can find an excuse to return him as a regular. Perhaps his step son gets interested in a Starfleet career? Etc. 

NEVER SURRENDERRRR! RETURN JANEWAY!

Matthias, not really sure why you think  I'm militant about it.  I respond that I don't expect everyone to agree or want her back in the books and I'm told I'm "militant" about it.  Tried that elsewhere too and was steadily degraded and attacked more and more ferociously until I left and have no intention of going back to that particular place.     Okay.  My own definition of militant would be someone who refuses to acknoweldge the "other side" ..  and I have always acknowledged that not everyone feels the same way.     I will admit to growing weary of being made to feel like trying to show support and stand up to say I and others would like to see her back is pointless and somehow wrong.  And no I'm not saying you have done that so please don't take offense at the statement.    At least I'm willing to try. 

The comments about the figures were not meant as a militant comment either, just a point that there are figures made which I bought back in the day and still have packed away.  *shrugs   It was a little snarky but it wasn't meant to be militant.  I felt that the comment was another subtle jab and if I was wrong.. well then I was wrong.  (I still say go buy them.  They're not that bad and some are pretty neat like the 8472 figure even if they're not as high quality as the Diamond Select figures are.)

I do see very clearly now why so many people who are part of the BBKJ group have given up even though their feelings on the subject remain unchanged.  It gets really old, really fast to be instantly degraded and ridiculed for stating an opinion that others don't like.  I had several tell me and state on Facebook that while they still feel just as strongly on the subject, they don't feel like dealing with the responses so they don't speak up any longer at all.  Which is really sad.  As for the personal information the petition site requests, users can just enter a dash mark, or some other note like 'personal' and not give their actual address information.  One would hope they are using their real names at least..  It's a free site so some details are not available to edit or change.  

As I've said.. I'm not militant about it at all.  It's something I'd like to see happen. Some new books in the Voyager series which include Janeway.  Maybe I am wasting my time but you know, it's my time to waste. I'm not going to continue to debate it.  I've made my stance perfectly clear repeatedly.  If someone out there doesn't agree, fine.  Really.  It's cool.  But if someone does agree and wants to go sign.  That's cool too.  And I am not being stubborn or single minded when I say I won't debate it further, I just see no point in an endless round and round.  People either agree or they don't.  I've made how I feel clear and that's good enough for me.

All the best to you Syn.Sixx. I admire the effort you and others are putting in to this and I wholeheartedly agree with you. 

Palymates isn't nowhere near the same league as Diamond Select.

Ditto.

That book was the reason I stopped reading the new stuff. There were so many things wrong in that book it was ridiculous.

True. My fiance refuses to read any Trek book period until she returns. It may be a little extreme, but hey, lol.

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That book was the reason I stopped reading the new stuff. There were so many things wrong in that book it was ridiculous.

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True. My fiance refuses to read any Trek book period until she returns. It may be a little extreme, but hey, lol.

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Don't blame him, I mean, they had a Borg ship EAT Pluto, give me a break. Plus the Janeway situation. It was more like reading one of those really bad Star Wars novels like the Crystal Star which I think Trek books were trying to turn into. They seemed to be doing a crises of the week. At least with the older books those crises were limited to one planet like an episode not something that will "shake the very foundation of the galaxy." Sorry for the rant but that book just really soured me on Trek books, so much so that I've only read a few since and they are all earlier in the timeline.

"Anyone remember when they used to be explorers?"   

I completely understand.  The Pluto thing was like WTF?! Matthias said he thought Janeway's death was meant to immitate Chewbacca's to try to increase readership (epic fails on both accounts). I only continued to read because my curiosity got the best of me. The books are okay and there's some good new characters, but it still really isn't Voyager without Janeway.

I won't be happy till she returns. Many people spit venom at Janeway and want her dead, but Janeway's fans are a passionate bunch. If Spock, Kirk, and a plethora of others could return, Janeway should be no different.