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Seeing DS9 for the first time

Mitchz95

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Report this Jan. 05 2012, 10:07 am

Don't give on DS9! It gets way better from the Season 2 finale onwards.


"The future is in the hands of those who explore... And from all the beauty they discover while crossing perpetually receding frontiers, they develop for nature and for humankind an infinite love." - Jacques Yves Cousteau

enhancesys

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Report this Jan. 05 2012, 8:15 pm

THE NAGUS: Fair


The leader of Ferenginar visits DS9 and names Quark his successor and then suddenly dies. Quark then learns the danger of being the leader as everyone is after him. As a secondary story, Nog keeps pulling Jake into bad situations but Jake sticks by him.


I originally rated this one Not Good but raised it to Fair. The reason? It ended very touchingly. Jake Sisko was late for dinner angering his dad...especially since he was probably hanging out with that bad kid, Nog. Captain Sisko finds his son Jake, in a cargo bay, secretly teaching Nog how to read because his dad forbade him to go to school.


That was a nice moment but just a moment in an episode that went nowhere otherwise. Quark found out that the Nagus faked his death so Quark went back to being just himself.


Again, the episodes seem to be much ado about nothing. No harm no foul.


Jim

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Report this Jan. 05 2012, 8:22 pm

VORTEX: Good


An alien is captured on DS9 that is wanted in the Gamma Quadrant. It is Odo's job to take him back to the alien's home world where he will likely be executed for crimes.


However, some other aliens are chasing them because they want revenge on the alien as well. This sends Odo's runabout into an asteroid field called the Vortex. It turns out the alien has his child in an asteroid in stasis. They revive her and Odo finds out the crimes the alien committed may not be crimes at all.


In the end, Odo is injured and the alien saves him despite Odo having to take him to his execution. Odo lets him go and tells everyone he was killed.


A bit predictable but a decent story...but at least they went somewhere!


Jim

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Report this Jan. 05 2012, 8:27 pm

BATTLE LINES: Good


In this episode, the Kai, spiritual leader of Bajor, visits DS9. She asks to see the wormhole so Sisko, Kira and Dr Bashir take her through the wormhole. On the other side, the Kai presses them to stay a little while. They end up investigating a moon with some strange readings. They are attacked and crash there.


The Kai is dead but comes back to life due to some artificial nanites. The nanites are there to keep the inhabitants alive to keep killing each other over and over again. It is a prison planet.


In the end, they are rescued but the Kai stays to help the inhabitants deal with their situation.


This was a good story and it dug a little deeper into the Bajor religion which happens to be the main story arc of DS9.


Jim


 

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Report this Jan. 07 2012, 8:01 am

THE STORYTELLER: Fair


This episode is really 2 separate stories rolled into 1 show.  First, you have Obrien and Dr Bashir going to Bajor to cure an epidemic in a village.  There is also a negotiation on DS9 between 2 Bajoran groups on claiming some land.


The story with Obrien and Bashir was PUTRID.  First, it started with a premise that Obrien didn't like Bashir and didn't want to go on a mission with him.  There doesn't seem to be any previous basis for this dislike.  Also, that dislike ends up not being significant to the issue on the planet surface.


Anyway, they go to the surface and find that the issue is a single old man is sick and dying.  This old man somehow helps the village people focus their mind power on some strange force that attacks them from the sky.  You really don't get a good idea what this force is, where it comes from or why it attacks.  It just does.


The old man eventually dies and elects Obrien to replace him.  It is almost a religious position.  Obrien doesn't want it but a villager does and has trained for it.  Leading the village against the force is a silly script of the leader emotionally supporting the village in a speech.  I'll leave you to watch the episode to see how that ends.


The other story back on DS9 focuses on one of the negotiators who is a young girl. She starts as defiant and steadfast in not giving an inch.  Jake and Nog make friends with her (because she is cute).  Nog helps her find a way to gain something from the negotiations yet give on the other side.  She becomes less rigid and more likable.


I get the feeling Nog could end up being a very good character.


So, between the horrible story on Bajor and the decent story on DS9, I am grading this one down the middle at "Fair".


Jim

Mitchz95

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Report this Jan. 07 2012, 8:31 am

Those sound about on par with me. And you're right about Nog and Garak...they get developed greatly and are a lot of fun...Garak especially.


"The future is in the hands of those who explore... And from all the beauty they discover while crossing perpetually receding frontiers, they develop for nature and for humankind an infinite love." - Jacques Yves Cousteau

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Report this Jan. 09 2012, 6:29 pm

Can't wait to read your reviews man! I followed your experience through Voyager. DS9 man... it's where it's at. Brilliant. On par with TNG, maybe better.


Looking forwad to watching your experience.

enhancesys

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Report this Jan. 09 2012, 8:28 pm

Thanks Worfsbum!  I am glad to have here.  Is there any particular aspect you are looking forward to in my reviews?  A season?  A particular episode?  Character evolution?


Thanks for hanging in there with me on the Voyager...um...voyage.  That was a lot of viewing in just 6 months.


So far, the quality of the episodes for DS9 have been better than I expected.  Yes, there are a few dogs but every show has them.  I am surprised I like Nog so much.  I hope his character goes somewhere interesting.  So far, Dax has been a little stiff but everyone says she is a great character and she is easy on the eyes.


My biggest concern is the bottle-show factor.  If they don't start going somewhere I could get bored.


Jim

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Report this Jan. 09 2012, 8:37 pm

PROGRESS: Good


This type of story has been done a bit...even in Star Trek.  In this episode, Bajor is going to tap into energy in the core of one of its moons.  This will make it uninhabitable.


Major Kira is asked to check out the moon one final time.  She finds a farmer there who has lived there many eyars and won't leave despite the impending doom (just like ST TNG Journey's End).  The farmer is played by Brian Keith.  A wonderful actor with a winning personality.  I grew up watching him on various show like Family Affair.


So, Major Kira develops a soft spot for him and can't make him move against his will.  I'll save the rest for you to see it yourself.


Like other DS9 episodes, it is a bit predictable but a good story is a good story none the less.  Perhaps DS9 was playing it safe by following some formulaic stories.  That's ok I guess.  It helps them get their footing.  Most Star Trek series start out weak anyway.


Jim

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Report this Jan. 09 2012, 8:41 pm

IF WISHES WERE HORSES: Not Good


I really knew I was going to hate this episode once I saw Rumpelstilskin.  It actually made me nostalgic for Flotter (Voyager: Once Upon a Time).


A spatial anomaly makes wishes begin to occur.  The twist is it is done on purpose by an alien race to judge the crew's reactions.  An ok little twist but not enough to make it good.


...and how does a short, overwight guy manage to become the greatest baseball player of all time...across centuries!?


I would avoid this episode.


Jim

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Report this Jan. 11 2012, 6:21 am

THE FORSAKEN: Good


In this episode, there are really 2 stories...Odo is being pursued by Luxwanna Troi and Dr. Bashir is having to play host to some picky ambassadors.  All the while, a strange probe is causing issues with the DS9 computer.


Due to the issues with the computer, Odo gets trapped on a turbolift with Troi.  At first she irritates him with her constant banter.  Later, they develop a bond.  He nears the end of his cycle to turn into a liquid which he doesn't wish to reveal.  Finally, he lets go and she holds him.  I liked that part of the episode.


The ambassadors were just annoying...didn't like that part.  The computer story was so-so.  This episode was between Good and Fair.


Jim

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Report this Jan. 11 2012, 6:50 pm

DRAMATIS PERSONAE: Not Good


I did not like this episode.  A Klingon ship comes through the wormhole and somehow infects the DS9 crew with a personality disorde that causes them to become paranoid and vindictive against each other.  


For a while it was hard to tell they weren't themselves and the ending solution was some techno-babble and a decompression of a cargo bay.


Trek has just done too many episodes in which the crew minds are taken over.  None of them are ever any good.


Jim


 

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Report this Jan. 11 2012, 6:59 pm

I am now 17 episodes into the first season and I'm really not liking it.  If you look at my individual ratings you will find out of the 17 I thought 8 were good, 4 were Fair and 5 were Not Good.  That is actually a pretty good percentage of Good episodes for a first season.  I realize that doesn't reconcile but it is true.  I am not enjoying it overall.


On the good side...I think the Bajoran religious story arc has a lot of promise.  I like Nog, Chief Obrien, Gurak and Dax.  The stories have a good quality to them.


On the bad side...Sisko is a dud.  There is just no passion there at all.  Kira is angry.  Odo is angry.  Dr. Bashir is a teenager in heat.  They are on a space station.  They don't go anywhere!  How often can you have a probe/ship/virus/lifeform/non-corporeal-intelligence just happen to come through the wormhole?  It is not even a Federation station.  The Bajorans are serial victims...and did I say they don't go anywhere?


I'll see some good episodes and then it crashes me back down with a bad one.


I am going to hang in there and keep watching this to the end but I'm not getting it.


Jim

Mitchz95

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Report this Jan. 11 2012, 7:03 pm

It gets way better very soon. The next one, "Duet", is my favorite of the first season and the next four after that see a big quality improvement.


The characters get developed much more in later seasons/episodes, and they do start going places.


Don't give up on this series until you at least finish season 4!


"The future is in the hands of those who explore... And from all the beauty they discover while crossing perpetually receding frontiers, they develop for nature and for humankind an infinite love." - Jacques Yves Cousteau

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Report this Jan. 12 2012, 5:04 am

Quote: enhancesys @ Jan. 11 2012, 6:59 pm

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>On the good side...I think the Bajoran religious story arc has a lot of promise.  I like Nog, Chief Obrien, Gurak and Dax.  The stories have a good quality to them.

>On the bad side...Sisko is a dud.  There is just no passion there at all.  Kira is angry.  Odo is angry.  Dr. Bashir is a teenager in heat.


Actually, for Sisko, that is the good side.  He will get more Shatneresque later on. 


You will get to see more development in Nog & Garak.  I don't want to say how much, but you probably already have some idea from reading other posts. 


Bashir gets a few doses of reality & becomes likeable.  I called him Doctor Dweeb early on, but he becomes a decent character.


Dax is written rather inconsistently.  She starts off seeming very reserved, but is later written as someone who gets around.


O'Brien deserved a better posting, but was probably the only engineer in StarFleet that could MacGyver that station into something usable.

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