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tonysmallz

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Report this Dec. 05 2011, 4:21 pm

Hi everyone im new to the forums here, im a complete voyager fan..


recently i just got around to watchign the whole series through a 3rd time and i find myself wanting more so i was searching on the amazon kindle store for voyager books that happen after the 7 year trek home from the Delta.


at the moment im reading Voyager: Full Circle and so far im on chapter 8 and its great to have insight into the characters and a continuation from the series.. it also has a lot of loose ends and plot lines from the series which is great.. but what i want to know is is there any more books that carry on from the series or any good voyager books in general.. anyway hi to everyone and thanks in advance....



JOYOFVGR

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Report this Dec. 06 2011, 5:36 am

Actually there are four books that take place right after Voyager's return to Earth. They were all written by Chirstie Golden:


Homecoming


The Farther Shore


Spirit Walk - One  - Old Wounds


Spirit Walk- Two: Enemy of My Enemy


They were OK, nothing great. I haven't read Full Circle but I understand it's really good. There' are also two sequels to Full Cirlce also written by Kristen Beyer:


Unworthy


Children of the Storm.


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Report this Dec. 06 2011, 6:57 am

The Dark Matter series is great. It is a 3 book series. Book 1 "Cloak and Dagger", Book 2 "Ghost Dance" and Book 3 "Shadow of Heaven." by Christie Golden. They take place during the Voyager trek home, but it is continuation of the episode "Eye of the Needle" with Dr. Telek R'Mor of the Romulan Astrophysical Academy. I am almost done with "Ghost Dance" and I can tell you I am enjoying the series a lot.


I read a few more Voyager books but they were also during the trek home. 


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tonysmallz

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Report this Dec. 06 2011, 9:29 am

Hi guys.. thanks for your replies and information about the other books, after reading your posts i went over to amazon Kindle store and got both "Unworthy" and "Children of The Storm" 


im getting through Full Cirlce quite quikc its a excellent read, its just solid writing the author seems to have the characters down to a T.. not been much mention of Tuvok yet. but he has to crop up lol 


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Report this Dec. 07 2011, 4:57 pm

And if you want the fate of Janeway, read "Before Dishonor."


Just so you know, a picture of the refitted Voyager is supposed to be in the 2013 Ships of the Line calender and illustrated by Mark Rademaker.  He illustrated one of the ship classes in the Voyager fleet for the 2012 calendar.


starlisa

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Report this Dec. 07 2011, 6:36 pm

Quote: JOYOFVGR @ Dec. 06 2011, 5:36 am

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>I haven't read Full Circle but I understand it's really good. There' are also two sequels to Full Cirlce also written by Kristen Beyer:

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I bought and read Full Circle but didn't enjoy it. I don't think it's the author's fault, she did a good job at what she was told to do, but I don't like Janeway death stories. The only bits I liked were the J/C bits. The rest of the book was too sad for me and I'm not interested in Voyager without Janeway. 


I think Tuvok has also been written out of the books but I might be wrong on that.


 

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Report this Dec. 08 2011, 12:53 am

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I haven't read Full Circle but I understand it's really good. There' are also two sequels to Full Cirlce also written by Kristen Beyer:


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I bought and read Full Circle but didn't enjoy it. I don't think it's the author's fault, she did a good job at what she was told to do, but I don't like Janeway death stories. The only bits I liked were the J/C bits. The rest of the book was too sad for me and I'm not interested in Voyager without Janeway. 


I think Tuvok has also been written out of the books but I might be wrong on that.


 


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Full Circle was really good and I enjoyed most of Unworthy, which came next. I am just now getting around to Children of the Storm and I must say I am not really enjoying it thus far. I am going to pursue it to the end and hopefully, it get's better. Tuvok is almost all but gone completely now as well.


I will be honest though, my biggest problem is it's hard to imagine or read a Voyager story without Janeway. It's just wrong. I agree with many fan sentiments that the publisher didn't know what to do with her as an admiral and bumped her off and they didn't even have enough decency to let her die in her own series, but in a Next Gen novel...   Killing her and the way she died was a dumb move and an absolute disgrace to the character. Seriously, only Tasha Yar's death in Next Gen was worse. (Okay stopping rant, sorry...) My fiance loves Janeway so much the he refuses to read the novels until they find a way to bring her back, which may be a long time if ever. (My curiosity got the best of me, I HAD to know). I am hoping that Pocket Books will realize that bringing Janeway back (I don't even think most of us care how, just bring her back) in the near future would be wise and find any number of reasons to put her back in command of if not Voyager, another ship.


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JOYOFVGR

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Report this Dec. 08 2011, 6:39 pm

I am of the same sentiment as your fiance. I won't read the books until I know Janeway is back.


Since I haven't read them, I won't bash them either. I can only say that I've read reviews that from people that feel as strongly as I do about Janeway's death that did read the novels. They felt the way Starlisa did. That the book was good, but they had a very hard time coping with her death. so they really didn't enjoy it. I really won't enjoy a novel if faced with that, so I'll skip it for now.


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Report this Dec. 10 2011, 1:37 am

Quote: JOYOFVGR @ Dec. 08 2011, 6:39 pm

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>I am of the same sentiment as your fiance. I won't read the books until I know Janeway is back.

>Since I haven't read them, I won't bash them either. I can only say that I've read reviews that from people that feel as strongly as I do about Janeway's death that did read the novels. They felt the way Starlisa did. That the book was good, but they had a very hard time coping with her death. so they really didn't enjoy it. I really won't enjoy a novel if faced with that, so I'll skip it for now.

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I was the same, but only my curiosity got the best of me. I am in Starlisa's boat as well. Voyager was on during my high school- early college days. I've adored Janeway from day one. In a sense, I guess the character was a hero of mine. Part of me is consoled with the fact that the books aren't technically cannon, so in a sense, she's not dead. But, if going by the novels, it's a reality that I still cannot accept and never will. Any other character (though I love them all) is pretty much expendable, but no Janeway= no Voyager in my opinion. It breaks my heart. I am a dreamer and an optimist, so I will keep hoping for her return because we all know how stubborn Janeway is and a little something like death won't stop her. Hey, she beat the Borg with just a cup of coffee...


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Report this Dec. 10 2011, 4:51 am

I can see your point. I don't mind character death if I'm set up to expect it and it furthers the story. Dumbledoor's death in Harry Potter is a perfect example of that. The various death's in BSG were OK as well, because it was set up as a darker series and you came to expect certain characters would die.


My expectation for Voyager was that Janeway and Chakotay would get together. That when they returned to Earth you would see some closure to some of the character's stories, etc. But that never happened. The series ended with C/7 out of no where. you never saw the crew re-unite with their loved ones on Earth and then Janeway died in a TNG novel. Honestly, these events really turned me off to the series.


 

tonysmallz

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Report this Dec. 10 2011, 2:08 pm

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Dec. 07 2011, 4:57 pm

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>And if you want the fate of Janeway, read "Before Dishonor."

>Just so you know, a picture of the refitted Voyager is supposed to be in the 2013 Ships of the Line calender and illustrated by Mark Rademaker.  He illustrated one of the ship classes in the Voyager fleet for the 2012 calendar.

>


thanks for your heads up mate i apriciate it..


 


now why on earth did starlisa ruin the story for me.. im actually quite pissed of that you let this slip and you have ruined the book for me.. next time try not to spoil books for other people!! i was really looking forwared to a long train trip i have in a few days just so i could finish it off.....


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Report this Dec. 10 2011, 3:12 pm

I'm very sorry if I ruined the story for you. I assumed you knew that Janeway is "dead for good" as far as the publishers are concerned. I didn't give any plot details away. I don't know what happens in the books that follow as I haven't read them. From the opening pages of Full Circle Janeway is dead so I thought you knew she was (as you said you were enjoying the book). Janeway died in the TNG book Before Dishonor published 2 years before Full Circle, so it's kind of necessary to know how she died to appreciate Full Circle. I really didn't give anything away that isn't common knowledge.


At least this way you are warned! It would come as a shock to a Janeway fan, I think, to find out that she doesn't come back in the subsequent books.


But I do sincerely apologise if I ruined the suspense for you.  But honestly I can tell you nothing about what happens after Full Circle as I don't know.


PS if you don't like it that Janeway is dead, many others feel the same, and there are campaigns (like on Facebook) to bring her back to the books.  Not everyone cares that she is dead, some even like the series better without her.

starlisa

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Report this Dec. 10 2011, 4:03 pm

Quote: JOYOFVGR @ Dec. 10 2011, 4:51 am

>My expectation for Voyager was that Janeway and Chakotay would get together. That when they returned to Earth you would see some closure to some of the character's stories, etc. But that never happened. The series ended with C/7 out of no where. you never saw the crew re-unite with their loved ones on Earth and then Janeway died in a TNG novel. Honestly, these events really turned me off to the series.


Same here. What keeps me interested in Voyager is my love for the characters, the wonderful premise, some terrific episodes during the series, and fanfic. It is my favorite show of all time and I refuse to let some idiotic decisions by tptb ruin it for me.

Vulcan1981

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Report this Dec. 10 2011, 6:56 pm

Quote: tonysmallz @ Dec. 10 2011, 2:08 pm

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Dec. 07 2011, 4:57 pm

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>And if you want the fate of Janeway, read "Before Dishonor."

>Just so you know, a picture of the refitted Voyager is supposed to be in the 2013 Ships of the Line calender and illustrated by Mark Rademaker.  He illustrated one of the ship classes in the Voyager fleet for the 2012 calendar.

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thanks for your heads up mate i apriciate it..

 

now why on earth did starlisa ruin the story for me.. im actually quite pissed of that you let this slip and you have ruined the book for me.. next time try not to spoil books for other people!! i was really looking forwared to a long train trip i have in a few days just so i could finish it off.....


 


Sorry for spoilers, but then again, her death happened back in 2007, reasonable time frame for spoilers is a year, perhaps 2 max.


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Vulcan1981

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Report this Dec. 10 2011, 6:57 pm

Quote: starlisa @ Dec. 10 2011, 3:12 pm

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>I'm very sorry if I ruined the story for you. I assumed you knew that Janeway is "dead for good" as far as the publishers are concerned. I didn't give any plot details away. I don't know what happens in the books that follow as I haven't read them. From the opening pages of Full Circle Janeway is dead so I thought you knew she was (as you said you were enjoying the book). Janeway died in the TNG book Before Dishonor published 2 years before Full Circle, so it's kind of necessary to know how she died to appreciate Full Circle. I really didn't give anything away that isn't common knowledge.

>At least this way you are warned! It would come as a shock to a Janeway fan, I think, to find out that she doesn't come back in the subsequent books.

>But I do sincerely apologise if I ruined the suspense for you.  But honestly I can tell you nothing about what happens after Full Circle as I don't know.

>PS if you don't like it that Janeway is dead, many others feel the same, and there are campaigns (like on Facebook) to bring her back to the books.  Not everyone cares that she is dead, some even like the series better without her.

>


I concur.


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