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enrico.billi

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Report this Dec. 02 2011, 4:23 pm

The last 30th of October the italian inventor Andrea Rossi (who has his company in USA called Leonardo Corporation) sold the first 1MW E-Cat (Energy-Catalyzer) thermal plant. This device was developed with the collaboration of Prof. Sergio Focardi (Bologna University, Italy), who studied this process of Cold Fusion or L.E.N.R. (Low Energy Nuclear Reactions) between Nickel and Hydrogen under pressure since 1989.


http://www.lenr-canr.org/News.htm


Now this thing is going to be more and more interesting. NASA and MIT is talking with Andrea Rossi for application in space exploration and commercializaiton in the USA. The Texas company National Instruments will develop the DCS (Display and Control System) of these plants


http://ecat.com/news/andrea-rossi-to-sign-contract-with-national-instruments-for-control-unit


For 2012 should be released the update for making electricity, making this system the first co-generation plant based on Cold Fusion or L.E.N.R. (Low Energy Nuclear Reactions), and for the year 2013 the boiler for private houses should be ready!


Because Nickel is very abundant and Hydrogen can be made from the sea with renewable energy, this technology could become the real answer for environmental problems.


 

The Master

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Report this Dec. 05 2011, 2:38 pm

And you bought it? Such a fraud to drag money! 


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enrico.billi

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Report this Dec. 06 2011, 4:19 am

Well... if it is a fraud, it will not go on for long time. But if it isn't? Can you imagine the applications of such technology? 


But may be it is too beautiful to be true, i know, but people says that nothing could travel faster than light and neutrino just do it between CERN and Gran Sasso (Italy). 


In any way in 2013 they will sell the E-Cat for homes, i will surelly tell you how it works! 


 

The Master

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Report this Dec. 06 2011, 1:13 pm

Quote: enrico.billi @ Dec. 06 2011, 4:19 am

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>Well... if it is a fraud, it will not go on for long time. But if it isn't? Can you imagine the applications of such technology? 

>But may be it is too beautiful to be true, i know, but people says that nothing could travel faster than light and neutrino just do it between CERN and Gran Sasso (Italy). 

>In any way in 2013 they will sell the E-Cat for homes, i will surelly tell you how it works! 

>


 


Dear enrico, first of all, "if" in the phrase "if it is a fraud" is kind of poor word choice, because it is pretty clear that it really is a fraud, 100%. Second, yes, sure, in any sensible community bs like that does not go for a long time, but can you really guarantee that community that dishonest jerk immersed himself into is really a sensible one?


Yes, thanks, I am aware of territorial belonging of Gran Sasso, as you are perhaps aware of international content of corresponding research group. At any rate, tensed thing with neutrino does not justify in any sensible way childish games of Mr Rossi, and you will no doubt realize it if think a little bit more, say, during consumption cappuccino.


Up to the moment application of his "technology" is pretty ambiguous, as soon as I believe there are enough pots and coffee machines in Italy. You are mostly welcomed to correct me if I am wrong on this one.


 


Looking forward to receiving report from you in 2013.


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enrico.billi

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Report this Dec. 06 2011, 6:18 pm

EHEH, well i saw it works, but if you think i am lost in their "reality distortion field" (like Steve Jobs's one), i will tell you if we will be back to impulse


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Report this Dec. 12 2011, 5:08 pm

None of his claims have been reproduced independently.  He's a fraud just like the Burzynski Clinic.

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Report this Dec. 13 2011, 1:21 am

Quote: Chief Warrant Officer Finn @ Dec. 12 2011, 5:08 pm

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>None of his claims have been reproduced independently.  He's a fraud just like the Burzynski Clinic.

>


You are of course correct, and reproducing the same result independently would have been a good option, if the idea had been plausible. But it is pretty clear that this man is wrong right away and without any additional experimental checks.


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enrico.billi

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Report this Dec. 13 2011, 3:16 am

Well, what you say is wrong. The same technology is reproduced by prof. Piantelli in Siena, this professor founded Nichenergy Srl and is going to compete with Rossi...


Infact if you check wikipedia also CERN scientists under the director prof. Antonio Zichichi in 1996 reproduced the effect but they just explain the effect as an unknown electro-chemical reaction, after that they didn't check the surface of the nickel cathode.


If you guys think it is a fraud... we are in a free world and everybody can think what they want, but this stuff seems interesting eheheheh 

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Report this Dec. 13 2011, 12:27 pm

Quote: enrico.billi @ Dec. 13 2011, 3:16 am

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>Well, what you say is wrong. The same technology is reproduced by prof. Piantelli in Siena, this professor founded Nichenergy Srl and is going to compete with Rossi...

>Infact if you check wikipedia also CERN scientists under the director prof. Antonio Zichichi in 1996 reproduced the effect but they just explain the effect as an unknown electro-chemical reaction, after that they didn't check the surface of the nickel cathode.

>If you guys think it is a fraud... we are in a free world and everybody can think what they want, but this stuff seems interesting eheheheh 

>


 


Trolling statements like this made me recall why I had decided to quit these boards a while ago. Damn, how could I forget!


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enrico.billi

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Report this Dec. 13 2011, 6:22 pm

Quote: The Master @ Dec. 13 2011, 12:27 pm

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>Trolling statements like this made me recall why I had decided to quit these boards a while ago. Damn, how could I forget!

>


 


 


It is fascinating, when i give you the references of other people and research center tested this technology, you say these are trolling statements.


I submit this post to know what people like me, who likes Star Trek, think about a possible technology could give us a new clean energy future. The only thing i can read is two people think it is a fraud and this technology is not reproduced.


The trolling statement in our case is not mine, this effect have not been reproduced, because University of Siena studied it from 1989, and CERN also reproduced it but the european research center gave a different explanation but they did nothing more.


It doesn't matter who is right or who is wrong, the question is... what will happen if this technology really works? Could you imagine the future developments? Did anyone thought we could have a possible fusion reactor for a possible DS9?


 

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Report this Mar. 23 2012, 4:34 pm

enrico.billi

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Report this Jun. 11 2012, 1:26 am

so?


http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=580&cpage=9#comment-197583


 

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Report this Jun. 11 2012, 1:54 pm


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Report this Jun. 12 2012, 1:05 pm

Also, Periodically Oscillating Plasma Sphere (POPS) sounds like a workable system for generating power on a starship, using Inertial Electrostatic Confinement (IEC), to contain the plasma fuel:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertial_electrostatic_confinement


 


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dryson

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Report this Jun. 13 2012, 10:17 am

Steve Jobs was an LSD user. Now you know what people follow him.


 


The idea sounds good but on Earth the power supply issue is not really an environmental issue it is a political issue meant to give politicians something to bander about before the masses and nothing more.


 


The real question is how would such a system be of benefit on the Moon or other planet where resources such as water and hydrogen are not present but when asteroid mining takes off, which it will, the availability of water to supply such systems will be present through the Solar System.

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