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Y don't other countries celebrate Thanksgiving?


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Report this Nov. 25 2011, 3:59 pm

I is unAmerican. Live with it.

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Report this Nov. 25 2011, 4:53 pm

By the President of the United States of America, a Proclamation.

Whereas it is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favor-- and whereas both Houses of Congress have by their joint Committee requested me to recommend to the People of the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many signal favors of Almighty God especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness.

Now therefore I do recommend and assign Thursday the 26th day of November next to be devoted by the People of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being, who is the beneficent Author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be-- That we may then all unite in rendering unto him our sincere and humble thanks--for his kind care and protection of the People of this Country previous to their becoming a Nation--for the signal and manifold mercies, and the favorable interpositions of his Providence which we experienced in the course and conclusion of the late war--for the great degree of tranquility, union, and plenty, which we have since enjoyed--for the peaceable and rational manner, in which we have been enabled to establish constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national One now lately instituted--for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed; and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge; and in general for all the great and various favors which he hath been pleased to confer upon us.

and also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech him to pardon our national and other transgressions-- to enable us all, whether in public or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly and punctually--to render our national government a blessing to all the people, by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed--to protect and guide all Sovereigns and Nations (especially such as have shewn kindness unto us) and to bless them with good government, peace, and concord--To promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the encrease of science among them and us--and generally to grant unto all Mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as he alone knows to be best.

Given under my hand at the City of New York the third day of October in the year of our Lord 1789.

Go. Washington


BTW Halloween was -never- utilized by Christians.  Other holidays were 'converted' from pagan celebrations, but Holloween is still as pagan as it began with the Druids.

"If Man is to survive, he will have learned to take delight in the essential difference between people and cultures" -Gene Roddenberry -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Col. P. A. Stevens CO, USS Code Talker NCC-1195


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Report this Nov. 25 2011, 5:09 pm

But it's called Halloween because it's "All Hallow's Eve", nominally the night before "All Saints Day". But like Christmas and Easter, it has its roots in pagan rituals appropriated by Christians.

Oh, and who is this "President" who thinks he can dictate to "all nations" about acknowledging "almighty god" ?? Overstepping his jurisdictional boundaries... Again.

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Report this Nov. 25 2011, 11:06 pm

Y can't you take two extra seconds and use the word "why"?


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Report this Nov. 27 2011, 10:16 am

Oh, and who is this "President" who thinks he can dictate to "all nations" about acknowledging "almighty god" ?? Overstepping his jurisdictional boundaries... Again.

OtakuJo, to answer your question and the question of the original thread:  first some other countries do celebrate Thanksgiving - such as Canada - on their own schedule and for their own reasons.

I think the first paragraph of the proclamation ColPeg posted, if taken out of context, would sound like American arrogance.  But I really don't think that George Washington, the first US president meant to be directing other countries but rather expressing an opinion that provided the justification for establishing the holiday in 'these states'.

When Washington first took comand of the Continental Army at the beginning of the Revolutionary War he directed his officers to count the troops and asses the supply of ammunition.  It took days, due to the disorganization of this volunteer army of farmers and laborers.   When the true condition of his army (scarcely any ammunition) was reported to him, he retired to his tent unable to speak for about a half hour. 

Americans sometimes forget how desperate an effort the revolt from England was, and how long it took.  Although the genesis of american Thanksgiving was in the Pilgrim era, what americans were celebrating in 1789 was the successful establishment of a government - a constitution with Presidential elections.  Note that NYC was the capital at the time.

It gives me insight into what's happening in the Arab Spring. 


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