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First Contact

Vger23

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Report this Dec. 28 2011, 7:32 pm

It always genuinely shocks me when people say that the battle against the Borg cube was impressive. I found that to be the most sterile, emotionlenss, dramaless spacebattle in all of Trek (except for the battle in the Briar Patch in the following movie).


Something that should have been intense and filled with emotion was a 3-minute scene that had no intensity and looked like a bad video game.

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Report this Dec. 28 2011, 10:01 pm

Quote: heidi.kim @ Nov. 15 2011, 7:49 pm

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>Ok. So my most favorite scene in First Contact has to be the one where Beverly is in Sick Bay, and Lily has to be woken up. She calls Alyssa to take Lily in the jeffreys tube, and says, "I swore I'd never use one of these! Computer, activate the EMH." Robert Picardo appears and says the usual, then after Beverly explains the situation, he says, "I'm a doctor, not a doorstop!" SOOOOOO FUNNY!!! My favorite scene ever! Especially after having watched Voyager. I also like the one where Deanna's drunk, and she says that Cochrane is nuts.

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I loved that scene when I watched in the movies. It's still one of my favs, I like when the doctor asked the borg if they needed cream. 


Two of my favorite scenes is when Picard, Worf and Lt. Hawk are repairing the dish and the borg tries to stop them, when they show the defiant attacking the borg cube and worf says "Perhaps today is a good day to die!" and the poor Lt. in the front looks so scared. 

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Report this Jan. 01 2012, 5:40 am

Quote: USS Liverpool @ Dec. 10 2011, 1:16 pm

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>In FC, when the Borg Queen ordered Data to fire the Enterprise's quatum torpedoes at the Phoenix during her maiden  voyage, were Riker, Geordi, and Cochran even aware of the incoming torpedoes? Would the Phoenix's sensors have detected them? On a radar for instance? Or the radar would have been too primitive in technology to pick up the energy signatures of the torpedoes.

>Speaking of the Phoenix, when it was being launched, wouldn't have everyone been incinerated from the blastoff of the rocket's ignited fuel in the encampment of people who were involved in the Phoenix project? They were practically next to thr launch site. Wouldn't they have to been a number of miles away at a safe distance from the launch site/missle silo like they do for a launch at Cape Kennedy?

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 Simple the acutal launch site was underground so most of the force was contained.


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Report this Jan. 01 2012, 5:41 am

My favorite scene is the very begining when we see the Borg Cube and the Federation Fleet come in to view.

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Report this Jan. 09 2012, 12:13 am

I love the scene where Reg Barclay is trying to talk to Dr. Cochran and Geordi, and in the background, the crewman in the blue outfit passes thru the scene walking in the same direction twice, and then when Barclay finally shakes Dr. Cochran's hand, and he (Barclay) moves, the crewman in blue is standing there with his head down and starts walking as if he's been walking the whole time.

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Report this Mar. 29 2012, 7:37 am

My favorite scene is Barclay's cameo.


 


I included First Contact in my review of my favourite things from 1996  (as well as parts of DS9's fourth & fifth seasons, and Voyager's second & third seasons)

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Report this Mar. 29 2012, 8:01 pm

1 - The briefing room discussion. By far the best character moment for Picard in the whole of TNG.


2 - First Contact with the Vulcans. The music is mainly what I love here; it captured the mood of the scene perfectly.


3 - Probably Picard conversing with (and eventually battling) the Borg Queen near the end. Good dialogue there.


I thought the Battle of Sector 001 was much better than some of the others in the franchise. It did feel tense, and seeing a Federation fleet in action against the Borg (and holding up relatively well, at least in comparison to Wolf 359) was awesome. The graphics looked about as realistic as those in VOY, which was good enough for immersion.


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Report this Mar. 30 2012, 5:21 am

Quote: Vger23 @ Dec. 28 2011, 7:32 pm

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>It always genuinely shocks me when people say that the battle against the Borg cube was impressive. I found that to be the most sterile, emotionlenss, dramaless spacebattle in all of Trek (except for the battle in the Briar Patch in the following movie).

>Something that should have been intense and filled with emotion was a 3-minute scene that had no intensity and looked like a bad video game.

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Agreed, this was probably the weakest stung together scene in the film, essentially thrown in just to show some sort of multi starship battle sequence above Earth. Lacking any tension or feel for desperation..and why did they feel it was necessarily to throw in Worf on his tiny ship burping that ridiculous line "Perhaps today is a good day to die" with the ill used Klingon theme music playing..truly a cringe moment if there ever was one.

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Report this Mar. 30 2012, 1:31 pm

Hard to pick just one...


- Seeing the Defiant blasting away at a Borg cube (which it was originally designed to do!) was awesome.


- "The line must be drawn here! This far! No further!" and "Captain Ahab's got to go kill his whale!" Good stuff.


- Vulcans greeting the humans at the end. For a TOS fan? Yeah, 'first contact' was quite a scene.


 


Now, I just have to wait for Vger23 to rip each of my choices a new a-hole. Ha.



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Report this Mar. 30 2012, 2:06 pm

I agree with the many who say that the best scene is Picard and Lily's confrontation in the ready room.  That scene is dramatic and funny--first Lily asks Picard if they still have books in that enlightened future of his, then Picard/Stewart masterfully recites from Moby Dick, then Lily says, "Actually, I never read it."  In my opinion, the best way to keep riveting drama from degenerating into self-satisfied melo-drama is to inject it with a bit of clever wit, and the Picard-Lily exchange manages the balance perfectly.


The ready room scene is great for all the reasons having to do with the plot and characters of the movie at hand that all the previous posters have mentioned, but to be honest, the main reason I love the scene is because it gives me an opportunity to just listen to Melville's beautiful prose--which is important because most people in our century are like Lily.  We get the "Ahab" reference without actually knowing how amazing the language of the book is because we only know Moby Dick through the lens of pop culture.  Personally, I watched the First Contact scene long before I read Melville's novel.  And when I did finally read the relevant passage in Moby Dick, I couldn't help hearing Stewart's voice in my mind (other parts of the book came out in Ricardo Montalban's voice, of course).


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Report this Apr. 01 2012, 12:47 am

Quote: TheDriver @ Mar. 30 2012, 1:31 pm

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>Hard to pick just one...

>- Seeing the Defiant blasting away at a Borg cube (which it was originally designed to do!) was awesome.

>- "The line must be drawn here! This far! No further!" and "Captain Ahab's got to go kill his whale!" Good stuff.

>- Vulcans greeting the humans at the end. For a TOS fan? Yeah, 'first contact' was quite a scene.

>Now, I just have to wait for Vger23 to rip each of my choices a new a-hole. Ha.

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And Zephram Cochrane introducing them to '70s rock.


This movie I think is the reason I first read Moby Dick.


(I love when Quark, Jake and Nog have moments in DS9 to parody some of those famous First Contact lines:
"We work to better ourselves and the rest of humanity."
& "The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")


Although seeing the Defiant adrift, now that was a little bit sad. Not as sad as seeing it destroyed toward the end of DS9. But still, sad.


Still waiting it looks like...


 


 


First Contact blended dramatic tension and comic relief so well. I think that's why a lot of people's favourite scenes were comedy moments.


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Report this Jun. 09 2012, 3:26 pm

My favorite scene was the end part. It like left a lump in my throat.


The real reason why it did, is because I'm also into UFOs. I reckon the Star Trek universe gives one a good idea of the real universe. So, the ending in the film would certainly be much like that in the real universe, at a time like that. 

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Report this Jul. 07 2012, 9:40 pm

That's gonna be a loooooong list. In no particular order:


- Worf, Picard and Mr. Redshirt walking on the Enterprise. The first scene where we see the size of the ship is damn impressive.


- The launch of the Phoenix. Could there be any better way of launching Earth's first FTL ship? Zefram Cochrane is a BAUS!


- The First Contact. From "Live long and prosper"..."Thanks" to Cochrane dancing with the Vulcans, just a damn touching scene.


- The Borg Battle in the beginning. Impressive visuals. I love these sexy Akira-class ships, and of course the cool-looking Sovereign-class.


- Picard and Lily in his ready room. People say Picard was out of character in the movies. I agree with them concerning Nemesis, Insurrection and maybe Generations (there he was a dumbass), but the Borg basically raped him! I thought it was appropriate to be angry at them.


- Of course the countless funny moments, Cochrane not wanting to become a statue, the EMH, Data shocking Lily, Borg sounds Swedish, etc.


Well, wasn't such a long list afterall. Stoopid Trek forums deleted my post now for the second time. Also wanted to respond to the topic regarding the worst Trek characters...


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Report this Jul. 09 2012, 12:53 pm

My Favorite scene dealing with First Contact is actually not in First Contact, it was in the ISD Universe on ENT when Cochrane and Co. stormed the Vulcan ship.


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