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greatest cross over scene in trek

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Report this Nov. 07 2011, 2:25 pm

There have been many cross over episodes where characters from one series interact with characters from another.  Which do you think was the best?


 


Personally, I like the "emissary" of DS9 where Sisko and Picard meet to discuss Sisko's mission.  I thought it was great because Picard had already become this mythic, legendary authority figure among his crew, and Sisko is a complete outsider.  You can tell that Sisko really doesn't like Picard, and although Sisko turned out to be a great officer, he would not have made it on the Enterprise.  I think the scene was very well done.

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Report this Nov. 07 2011, 3:05 pm

I liked McCoy talking with Data.


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Report this Nov. 07 2011, 3:54 pm

I'm partial to Barclay on Voyager. 


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Report this Nov. 07 2011, 8:26 pm

Generally, I don't like these cameos.  They feel like easy, artificial ways to capitalize on another series' popularity, at best (Enterprise's "These Are The Voyages"), and at worst, they prolong a great character's narrative in a way that seems untrue to that character's original series (The Next Generation's "Unification").


However, I quite liked (indeed loved) The Next Generation's "Relics."  I thought it was a sweet, clever story that payed true homage to a great character and actor from the original show.


Oh, and while it may be slightly off topic, I liked Nimoy's role in the newest Star Trek movie.


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Report this Nov. 07 2011, 8:40 pm

Scotty in Relics is my favorite. Also Admiral McCoy passing the torch to TNG was very well done.


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Report this Nov. 08 2011, 4:14 pm

McCoy talking with Data in "Encounter at Farpoint" was far and away the best one.


The crossovers between modern Treks weren't nearly as meaningful or impactful.

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Report this Nov. 24 2011, 5:38 pm

Although not "iconic", I enjoyed the the EMH in First Contact.


McCoy with Data was a nice gesture of passing the torch (although I found it hard to believe he would still be alive).


I also liked Sisko and Picard. As stated above, Sisko was an outsider.  We never heard someone speak to Picard like that before.


Bashir on the Enterprise was a complete waste of time, so much so he wasn't even in the second part of the story.


Riker and Troi in Enterprise


 

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Report this Nov. 25 2011, 11:41 am

Am I the only one who really disliked McCoy's cameo in "Encounter at Farpoint"?  I felt like it added nothing to the plot.  It had nothing to do with the rest of the events in the episode.  It was as though the writers realized they needed to tie their new series back to the great and popular original one but had no idea how to do that, so they just clumsily stitched in a scene with an original series actor talking about how great the Enterprise is.


I didn't understand how McCoy could have lived that long, and I thought it was sad to see the great character as a shrivelled old man with barely a breath of life in him, but I could have accepted and even embraced those fictional plot points if they had indeed been crucial and beneficial to the story's plot.


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Report this Nov. 25 2011, 11:57 am

I myself enjoy Spock in the Unification two-parter.


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Report this Nov. 25 2011, 12:47 pm

I liked it when Janeway was talking with Picard in Nemesis.


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Report this Nov. 25 2011, 3:46 pm

I love the scene in "Encounter at Farpoint" where McCoy talks to Data. Spock in Unification was pretty cool too. And of course, I love The Doctor in First Contact. It always makes me happy.


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Report this Nov. 25 2011, 3:49 pm

Quote: KelisThePoet @ Nov. 25 2011, 11:41 am

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>Am I the only one who really disliked McCoy's cameo in "Encounter at Farpoint"?  I felt like it added nothing to the plot.  It had nothing to do with the rest of the events in the episode.  It was as though the writers realized they needed to tie their new series back to the great and popular original one but had no idea how to do that, so they just clumsily stitched in a scene with an original series actor talking about how great the Enterprise is.

>I didn't understand how McCoy could have lived that long, and I thought it was sad to see the great character as a shrivelled old man with barely a breath of life in him, but I could have accepted and even embraced those fictional plot points if they had indeed been crucial and beneficial to the story's plot.

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Why is it hard to understand? People live to be over 100 fairly commonly now in the early 21st century. Why is it hard to believe that live spans would continue to advance 350 years in the future...especially for a brilliant doctor who probably knows how to take care of himself?


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Report this Nov. 25 2011, 4:13 pm

Quote: Medic_1849 @ Nov. 24 2011, 5:38 pm

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>Although not "iconic", I enjoyed the the EMH in First Contact.

>McCoy with Data was a nice gesture of passing the torch (although I found it hard to believe he would still be alive).

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You just reminded me of something with the EMH part.  I had gotten someone a job, and we had pagers.  We would often page each other with words (they were numeric pagers only, but we used the letters on the phones so some deciphering was required.  I had gone to see FC before him & paged him with 36677867 which he figured out could only have spelled "DOORSTOP" so when we spoke on the phone, he asked me if doorstop had something to do with the ST movie.  I replied "What the @#$% does doorstop have to do with Star Trek?"  He went to see it, and during the scene when the EMH says "I'm a doctor..." he said "not a doorstop", and someone next to him asked him how he knew that.  After the movie, he paged me spelling out various profanities.


Agreed, the part with McCoy was not important to the episode, but it was a way to pass the torch.

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Report this Nov. 25 2011, 4:37 pm

Quote: 267198ed @ Nov. 25 2011, 11:57 am

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>I myself enjoy Spock in the Unification two-parter.

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Oh yeah that was actually a good one. And in the recent movie -- even though that wasn't necessarily a crossover.


Honestly the first time I saw Encounter at Farpoint, I could not find McCoy/Data "meaningful" in a sense because... I didn't recognise McCoy! (Oh and because E.A.F. was a pretty crap episode overall.) It was like "Hey who's that old guy?"


I suppose people would expect me to mention Bashir in Birthright part 1, which I enjoy his scenes, but do feel that he was rather forced into that story. I liked some of Lursa and B'Etor's scenes on DS9 even though the episode itself wasn't a very good one. Oh, and Defiant of course.


I'm going to go with the interaction between Quark and Ens.Kim on Voyager's pilot episode. Given that they were chasing Maquis in the Badlands, it didn't feel so forced for the Voy. crew to be on DS9 and Quark got to call out Kim about his attitudes to Ferengi.


Crossovers are going to happen of course -- they're all in the same universe after all!


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Report this Nov. 25 2011, 5:33 pm

Probably DS9's Trials and Tribble-ations, the scene where Sisko and Dax are watching Spock and Kirk on the comm and Dax comments on Spock's looks.

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