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Are kirk and Spock gay?

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Sehlat123

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Report this Dec. 03 2012, 3:44 pm

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>I'll stop playing with you for a minute.

>Kirk, Spock, McCoy all love each other (not in a weird way) and if you can't see that after watching TOS and the movies then you really don't understand them. They are best bros and would willingly sacrifice themselves for each other not just for duty. i really didn't see that in the other series. And if JJ doesn't put that in the next movie then I think he's made a big mistake. He may make millions, hundreds of millions but it will still be an opportunity lost.

>Spock can still have Uhura, Kirk can have his space bimbos but the friendship must come first. IMO.

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I think that sums it up. In this time, when people oversexualize everything, people think that friends are somehow in love. Something great about Star Trek, is that it protrays good relationships and freindships, not the perverted stuff on TV today. And some people hate that, and can't understand the concept of good friends without some sort of affair. So they think that they are gay.


What I think is stupid is that they pick those three to be gay. They obviously are not.  Spock had his Pon Farr, and McCoy was involved with someone at some point too. And Kirk always was with some girl. Would you say Riker is gay? Of course not!


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Report this Dec. 05 2012, 7:15 pm

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>To me the episode that really shows the friendship between Kirk, Spock and McCoy is "The Empath".  It also says something about the best side of humanity as well. In many ways it shows the real message that Gene Roddenberry was trying to convey to the audience.

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So glad to find another 'Empath' fan!  A 'small' episode that conveyed so much!

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Report this Dec. 05 2012, 9:17 pm

Agreed! An excellent example of how Star Trek didn't HAVE to have mind-blowing special effects in order to entertain and at the same time teach us something about ourselves.

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Report this Dec. 06 2012, 9:17 pm

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>Seriously? I thought I've seen this question asked for multiple of times on here on different threads.

>Anyways the answer is no because if they were gay they would obviosly be in a boyfriend+ boyfriend relationship with each other. Since Gene Rodenberr, the creator of Star Trek,  never intended to make Spock and Kirk gay that means that they were NEVER gay to begin with.

>I honestly don't know how people can think that Spock and Kirk are a gey couple unless it's to fullfil some kind of fetish for their favorite characters

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Hey LadyData,

read on if you want to ruin your childhood but with your theme of Kirk and Spock not being written as gay (which I happen to agree with excepting the end of TWOK).

I see that you have SailorMoon in your signature. I heard that two of the Sailor Moon characters were written to be gay If they could get it past the censors. Deliberately. No error.

I also heard that the actors were told to play out Spock's death scene in TWOK as if it were a 'love story' or something like that. 

 


 


You didn't ruin my childhood I already knew that Sailor Neptune and Sailor Uranus were a lesbian couple but the English dub censored it because they thought it was inappropriate for children to learn about homosexuality.


 


As for Kirk and Spock in TWOK I honestly didn't know that. I thought it was suppose to resemble a death of a very close friend or brother. But then again even some of the Star Trek movies are inconcsistent with the series.


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Report this Dec. 11 2012, 7:00 pm

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Report this Dec. 13 2012, 2:33 am

Kirk's true love is the ship, and he always refers to it as a "she". He also has bunches of heterosexual relationships, including several that were apparently serious if his career hadn't gotten in the way (see The Deadly Years, Shore Leave, Turnabout Intuder, etc).


Regarding Spock, it is unclear if in fact there are any gay Vulcans--it would appear that, like salmon, they head back home to ponn far with the appropriate female. 


No evidence of gayness for either one.

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Report this Dec. 25 2012, 7:23 pm

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! They are just good old friends.

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Report this Dec. 25 2012, 9:22 pm

I'm sorry, but have you SEEN the series? Kirk sleeps with anything that moves (and doesn't, for that matter)


 

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Report this Dec. 25 2012, 11:39 pm

Quote: cellist @ Dec. 13 2012, 2:33 am

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>Kirk's true love is the ship, and he always refers to it as a "she". He also has bunches of heterosexual relationships, including several that were apparently serious if his career hadn't gotten in the way (see The Deadly Years, Shore Leave, Turnabout Intuder, etc).

>Regarding Spock, it is unclear if in fact there are any gay Vulcans--it would appear that, like salmon, they head back home to ponn far with the appropriate female. 

>No evidence of gayness for either one.

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lol Salmon pon farr.


Referring to ships in the feminine (she, her, etc) is really just a part of naval tradition and nothing to do with the sexual orientation of sailors (or captains)


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Report this Dec. 26 2012, 6:17 am

Wouldn't I like that?


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Report this Dec. 29 2012, 10:06 pm

I think it's a really reaching to interpret either of them as gay.  If Kirk had any homosexual inclination, shouldn't we have seen him even once show any attraction for a male guest star the way he does for the female guest stars in almost every episode?  And he wouldn't act on them with his first officer, or any of his crew, either.  A captain has to keep a certain amount of detachment from the crew, it would be unprofessional at the very least.


Now, Spock...  Vulcans don't do the macho posturing most human males do.  It doesn't fit their logical ideal.  It seems like the slash fiction fans are misinterpreting that lack of macho posturing as being feminine or gay.  That shows deep lack of understanding of the characters, in my opinion.


 

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Report this Jan. 02 2013, 4:39 pm

I agree kkt.  Kirk is the definition of machismo....And that can go both ways but if he were, we would have seen it.


Roddenberry was unafraid to do things out of the ordinary so this, I think, would have been more than apparent to us....

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Report this Mar. 15 2013, 4:01 pm

No why the heck would you think that

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Report this Mar. 17 2013, 7:22 pm

 That would be illogical.

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Report this Mar. 19 2013, 11:55 am

Just doing my part to keep this thread alive! LOL


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