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Report this Mar. 22 2012, 9:00 pm

Quote: TNG=culture @ Mar. 22 2012, 8:42 pm

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>  "they say" those who serve  in the milatary, do not ask questions, just do what your told". Who do i beleive? killing spree?

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How many "killing Sprees" have you ever heard of by a US military person throughout our history?  Do you even know what's going on with him (I'm guessing you're talking about the guy who killed 16 people)? (Do you even know that he has a head trauma?)


Yes, there are historical events where people in the US military did terrible things, but I'll place our record up against any and every military force in the world.  See... the USA holds itself up as a moral standard - a standard that pretty much the rest of the world laughs at.  It's when one or a few people go against that standard that people (rightfully) complain.  Thankfully, it's very seldom.


There is a time to ask questions and there's a time to do as ordered.  Most people know when that is because responsibility is also taught at the lowest levels of the military.


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Report this Mar. 23 2012, 5:31 am







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Report this Mar. 23 2012, 5:39 am

Quote: FleetAdmiral_BamBam @ Mar. 22 2012, 9:00 pm

Quote: TNG=culture @ Mar. 22 2012, 8:42 pm

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>  "they say" those who serve  in the milatary, do not ask questions, just do what your told". Who do i beleive? killing spree?

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How many "killing Sprees" have you ever heard of by a US military person throughout our history?  Do you even know what's going on with him (I'm guessing you're talking about the guy who killed 16 people)? (Do you even know that he has a head trauma?)

Yes, there are historical events where people in the US military did terrible things, but I'll place our record up against any and every military force in the world.  See... the USA holds itself up as a moral standard - a standard that pretty much the rest of the world laughs at.  It's when one or a few people go against that standard that people (rightfully) complain.  Thankfully, it's very seldom.

There is a time to ask questions and there's a time to do as ordered.  Most people know when that is because responsibility is also taught at the lowest levels of the military.


my point is our milatary is not getting the help they deserve. how many kill themsleves everydat,18,25,30?  is private needhams's war him or something else. Did he get the attention he deserved i dont know, could his father do more, he did alot.  Why are we putting "our people" (humanity) threw this crap!


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Report this Mar. 23 2012, 8:36 am

Quote: TNG=culture @ Mar. 23 2012, 5:39 am

Quote: FleetAdmiral_BamBam @ Mar. 22 2012, 9:00 pm

Quote: TNG=culture @ Mar. 22 2012, 8:42 pm

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>  "they say" those who serve  in the milatary, do not ask questions, just do what your told". Who do i beleive? killing spree?

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How many "killing Sprees" have you ever heard of by a US military person throughout our history?  Do you even know what's going on with him (I'm guessing you're talking about the guy who killed 16 people)? (Do you even know that he has a head trauma?)

Yes, there are historical events where people in the US military did terrible things, but I'll place our record up against any and every military force in the world.  See... the USA holds itself up as a moral standard - a standard that pretty much the rest of the world laughs at.  It's when one or a few people go against that standard that people (rightfully) complain.  Thankfully, it's very seldom.

There is a time to ask questions and there's a time to do as ordered.  Most people know when that is because responsibility is also taught at the lowest levels of the military.

my point is our milatary is not getting the help they deserve. how many kill themsleves everydat,18,25,30?  is private needhams's war him or something else. Did he get the attention he deserved i dont know, could his father do more, he did alot.  Why are we putting "our people" (humanity) threw this crap!

How many military people commit suicide every day? According to the VA, there are 30,000 suicides annually in the USA, 20% are veterans (~16 a day.)  Veterans have the VA to help them - that's more than the average person.  Also, the question is (and every case will be different,) what was the catalyst for the suicide for each person?  Was it their military experience or was it what's happening back here in the USA?


Why have a military????  Do you really not understand how dangerous our enemies are?  (And remember - we all volunteer for it - there hasn't been a draft in 40 years.)


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Report this Mar. 24 2012, 2:30 pm

Quote: FleetAdmiral_BamBam @ Mar. 23 2012, 8:36 am

Quote: TNG=culture @ Mar. 23 2012, 5:39 am

Quote: FleetAdmiral_BamBam @ Mar. 22 2012, 9:00 pm

Quote: TNG=culture @ Mar. 22 2012, 8:42 pm

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>  "they say" those who serve  in the milatary, do not ask questions, just do what your told". Who do i beleive? killing spree?

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How many "killing Sprees" have you ever heard of by a US military person throughout our history?  Do you even know what's going on with him (I'm guessing you're talking about the guy who killed 16 people)? (Do you even know that he has a head trauma?)

Yes, there are historical events where people in the US military did terrible things, but I'll place our record up against any and every military force in the world.  See... the USA holds itself up as a moral standard - a standard that pretty much the rest of the world laughs at.  It's when one or a few people go against that standard that people (rightfully) complain.  Thankfully, it's very seldom.

There is a time to ask questions and there's a time to do as ordered.  Most people know when that is because responsibility is also taught at the lowest levels of the military.

my point is our milatary is not getting the help they deserve. how many kill themsleves everydat,18,25,30?  is private needhams's war him or something else. Did he get the attention he deserved i dont know, could his father do more, he did alot.  Why are we putting "our people" (humanity) threw this crap!

How many military people commit suicide every day? According to the VA, there are 30,000 suicides annually in the USA, 20% are veterans (~16 a day.)  Veterans have the VA to help them - that's more than the average person.  Also, the question is (and every case will be different,) what was the catalyst for the suicide for each person?  Was it their military experience or was it what's happening back here in the USA?

Why have a military????  Do you really not understand how dangerous our enemies are?  (And remember - we all volunteer for it - there hasn't been a draft in 40 years.)


 


 So ok then, yes we agree. We are going in the same direction. What is the right direction, and who is double checking the right direction.  I need to check this thread again, and ask a few questions. you say "they" are destroying the Constitution, and have been for a long time. Then you tell me of a movement that is going against that one percent of people who are destroying the four fathers ideas.   I havent seen the plan ypu have of getting there. If people are the answer how are they forming? 237 millionares in congress are the one percent. How do we get the common man with ideas from the Constitution in congress? 


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Report this Mar. 24 2012, 2:34 pm

HA! HA! i said threw.

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Report this Mar. 24 2012, 3:35 pm

Quote: TNG=culture @ Mar. 24 2012, 2:30 pm

> So ok then, yes we agree. We are going in the same direction. What is the right direction, and who is double checking the right direction.  I need to check this thread again, and ask a few questions. you say "they" are destroying the Constitution, and have been for a long time. Then you tell me of a movement that is going against that one percent of people who are destroying the four fathers ideas.   I havent seen the plan ypu have of getting there. If people are the answer how are they forming? 237 millionares in congress are the one percent. How do we get the common man with ideas from the Constitution in congress? 

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The issue has absolutely nothing to do with who has money - don't get sidetracked.  Money is just a tool to use to push their agenda.


Take a look at George Soros that has had "fun" (his own word) destroying the economies of multiple countries and has said that the USA is in the way of what he wants to do.  Take a look at the unions and their agenda.


Sometimes money is used as a way to bribe someone... or enslave people (entitlements.)  Take a look at the agenda of people.  Why do you think tha ProRegressives added the 18th Amendment?  Why do you think they added entitlements?  Why do you think they've taken over the school system?  Why do you think they keep demanding and adding more and more regulations (thousands each year) and laws?


Why do you think so many of the people behind Socialism/Communism/etc. are pushing OWS?  Where does all that lead?


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Report this Mar. 24 2012, 6:11 pm

Quote: TNG=culture @ Mar. 24 2012, 2:30 pm

>How do we get the common man with ideas from the Constitution in congress? 
The first question is, how many "common men" do you know that actually know Constitutional basics?  If you've ever seen any "man on the street" interviews, you'll quickly find how absolutely pathetic that average American's knowledge is of it.  Beyond the basic three branches and saying that there's a Bill of Right, most people can't answer simple questions.


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Report this Mar. 25 2012, 6:50 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0euRonrJr4k&feature=


 


 


 same with most christians that do not  know all the commandments. 


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Report this Mar. 25 2012, 9:00 am

Quote: TNG=culture @ Mar. 25 2012, 6:50 am

> same with most christians that do not  know all the commandments.
Very true.  But civics is supposed to be required in school and kids go to school 200 days a year for 12+ years.  Still, we'd think that more Christians would know the 10 Commandments if they read the Bible (even though the government has been taking the 10 Commandments out of all public places.)


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Report this Mar. 25 2012, 2:29 pm

You post links to paranoid delusionists like Breitbart and Beck??? Bwahahaha!!!! And you call other people sheep?? Pot....meet kettle.


 


Hilarious and sad at the same time, bambam


Target that explosion and FIRE!

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Report this Mar. 25 2012, 2:49 pm

Quote: quantumstring12 @ Mar. 25 2012, 2:29 pm

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>You post links to paranoid delusionists like Breitbart and Beck??? Bwahahaha!!!! And you call other people sheep?? Pot....meet kettle.

>Hilarious and sad at the same time, bambam

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 So do you have anything of substance to add or are you just going to make fun of someone who doesn't think the way you want them to?


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Report this Mar. 25 2012, 4:10 pm

I'd be more than happy to supply you with substance on this issue.


 


First, let me start with a quote from Benjamin Franklin who said:


"The refusal of King George III to allow the colonies to operate an honest money system, which freed the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators was probably the prime cause of the revolution."


 


Enter the Federal Reserve. Created in 1910 after a meeting between BANKERS, not law makers or politicians except for one. Nelson W. Aldrich (R) Rhode Island. The legislation for this act was pushed through Congress(80 years after the Second Bank of the United States was allowed to expire...true capitalism) and signed into law by Woodrow Wilson in 1913 along with the personal income tax and who later wrote about this act..."I have unwittingly ruined my country." This 'system' codified by Congress in 1913, facilitated the US government's ability to inflame the nation's citizens for the purpose of supporting the European war of 1914-18 of WWI. Warfare provides a source of immense borrowing and provides banking corporations with huge profits in the form of interest income. Several of these same Wall Street banks financed Adolph Hitler two decades later, including J.P. Morgan, Henry P. Davison(Citibank) Paul Warburg, J.D Rockefeller and Frank A. Vanderslip.


Now, fast forward and few decades and we have WWII, the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and the Korean war. Dwight D. Eisenhower, a war hero, 5 star general and highly considered one of our greatest Presidents, warns EVERYONE about the military industrial complex, a phrase he himself coined. He knew that there was huge profits to be made in war, and that there are those who have no reservations about starting wars to boost their profits and their power. Gulf of Tonkin. A false flag operation intended for the sole purpose of entering the Vietnam war. Enter John F. Kenndy. This great man had the guts and the balls to stand up to the Fed and put them out of business with Executive order 11110. Five months later he's assassinated.LBJ repeals 1110. Probably didn't feel like dying, I suppose. Vietnam continues until we eventually pull out.


Enter Reagan and the 'trickle down' economics. Yeah...didn't really trickle down, though Wall Street boomed!! Clinton repeals Glass-Steagal act freeing the banks, big oil and the military industrial complex to profit without conscience.


Enter Bush and the tax breaks for the wealthy. Then 9/11. Another false flag operation designed to bring about what's known as 'shock politics' using the world wide media as it's mouthpiece. The Patriot Act....the most dangerous and draconian piece of legislation with BROAD interpretations. Two wars, thousands dead and TRILLIONS SPENT. Halliburton, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Bektel and the like recording record profits. Yippe Hooray!!!


Now the bailout of '08 as our economy crumbles. The largest money grab in the history of the world. These banks create an artificial bubble, burst it, and socialize their losses while privitizing their profits, through taxes.


Now, if America was TRULY still a democracy, this 'bailout' should have been voted on by the people. A referendum. But no....they played it off as this was the only solution to save our economy and we took it up the ass....again.


Enter Obama....I'm betting his first few months as President were jaw dropping. The Patriot Act extended, Bush tax cuts extended, both wars continue, though we are now out of Iraq...somewhat. Next in the sights....Iran. Duh!!!


Enter the Supreme Courts' decision Citizens United which gives the richest in the country, and elsewhere, more political power since they have the most wealth. Is that Democracy?? Really?? I don't see it. I see it as a PLUTOCRATC OLIGARCHY. Well on it's way to a hard right wing facist military state.


So, you see, America hasn't been a Democratic Republic for going on 100 years now. And though people may not be able to put a grasp on it yet, we are pissed off for having to pay for our own slavery by the real three branches of government. Thus, the Occupy movement and to a degree the Tea Party movement. Damn straight we're taxed enough already. Capitalism is the best economic system, but it's been manipulated and corrupted since 1913 by those few who have accumulated the wealth in that time. Or....the 1%.


The REAL three branches of America's government are Bankers, Big Oil, and the Military Industrial Complex. They own the Presidency, the Congress and the Judges.


I hope this is what you meant by substance. If I remember anything else I'll let you know.


 


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Report this Mar. 25 2012, 4:38 pm

Ah, yes. It should be noted that Aldrich, after getting the Fed act passed, was then married into the Rockefeller family. I hope she was worth destroying a country for. Probably not.


 


 

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Report this Mar. 25 2012, 4:50 pm

Quote: quantumstring12 @ Mar. 25 2012, 4:10 pm

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>I'd be more than happy to supply you with substance on this issue.

>First, let me start with a quote from Benjamin Franklin who said:

>"The refusal of King George III to allow the colonies to operate an honest money system, which freed the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators was probably the prime cause of the revolution."

>Enter the Federal Reserve. Created in 1910 after a meeting between BANKERS, not law makers or politicians except for one. Nelson W. Aldrich (R) Rhode Island. The legislation for this act was pushed through Congress(80 years after the Second Bank of the United States was allowed to expire...true capitalism) and signed into law by Woodrow Wilson in 1913 along with the personal income tax and who later wrote about this act..."I have unwittingly ruined my country." This 'system' codified by Congress in 1913, facilitated the US government's ability to inflame the nation's citizens for the purpose of supporting the European war of 1914-18 of WWI. Warfare provides a source of immense borrowing and provides banking corporations with huge profits in the form of interest income. Several of these same Wall Street banks financed Adolph Hitler two decades later, including J.P. Morgan, Henry P. Davison(Citibank) Paul Warburg, J.D Rockefeller and Frank A. Vanderslip.

>Now, fast forward and few decades and we have WWII, the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and the Korean war. Dwight D. Eisenhower, a war hero, 5 star general and highly considered one of our greatest Presidents, warns EVERYONE about the military industrial complex, a phrase he himself coined. He knew that there was huge profits to be made in war, and that there are those who have no reservations about starting wars to boost their profits and their power. Gulf of Tonkin. A false flag operation intended for the sole purpose of entering the Vietnam war. Enter John F. Kenndy. This great man had the guts and the balls to stand up to the Fed and put them out of business with Executive order 11110. Five months later he's assassinated.LBJ repeals 1110. Probably didn't feel like dying, I suppose. Vietnam continues until we eventually pull out.

>Enter Reagan and the 'trickle down' economics. Yeah...didn't really trickle down, though Wall Street boomed!! Clinton repeals Glass-Steagal act freeing the banks, big oil and the military industrial complex to profit without conscience.

>Enter Bush and the tax breaks for the wealthy. Then 9/11. Another false flag operation designed to bring about what's known as 'shock politics' using the world wide media as it's mouthpiece. The Patriot Act....the most dangerous and draconian piece of legislation with BROAD interpretations. Two wars, thousands dead and TRILLIONS SPENT. Halliburton, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Bektel and the like recording record profits. Yippe Hooray!!!

>Now the bailout of '08 as our economy crumbles. The largest money grab in the history of the world. These banks create an artificial bubble, burst it, and socialize their losses while privitizing their profits, through taxes.

>Now, if America was TRULY still a democracy, this 'bailout' should have been voted on by the people. A referendum. But no....they played it off as this was the only solution to save our economy and we took it up the ass....again.

>Enter Obama....I'm betting his first few months as President were jaw dropping. The Patriot Act extended, Bush tax cuts extended, both wars continue, though we are now out of Iraq...somewhat. Next in the sights....Iran. Duh!!!

>Enter the Supreme Courts' decision Citizens United which gives the richest in the country, and elsewhere, more political power since they have the most wealth. Is that Democracy?? Really?? I don't see it. I see it as a PLUTOCRATC OLIGARCHY. Well on it's way to a hard right wing facist military state.

>So, you see, America hasn't been a Democratic Republic for going on 100 years now. And though people may not be able to put a grasp on it yet, we are pissed off for having to pay for our own slavery by the real three branches of government. Thus, the Occupy movement and to a degree the Tea Party movement. Damn straight we're taxed enough already. Capitalism is the best economic system, but it's been manipulated and corrupted since 1913 by those few who have accumulated the wealth in that time. Or....the 1%.

>The REAL three branches of America's government are Bankers, Big Oil, and the Military Industrial Complex. They own the Presidency, the Congress and the Judges.

>I hope this is what you meant by substance. If I remember anything else I'll let you know.

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 Can't take you seriously you are one of the JFK assasination conspericy theorist.


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