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Fleet Admiral Braxton

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Report this Aug. 17 2012, 4:09 pm

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Quote: Fleet Admiral Braxton @ Aug. 15 2012, 4:53 pm

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>2) Cut ALL Foreign Aid By At Least 75% Before Cutting Defense Or Entitlements.

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How will that help anything? Foreign aid amounts to barely over 1% of the federal budget, whereas as we spend more on defense than we actually need to.

The Less We Send To Foreign Shores,The less we Have to Cut From Other programs;DUH?

Fleet Admiral Braxton

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Report this Aug. 17 2012, 4:20 pm

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Quote: FleetAdmiral_BamBam @ Aug. 15 2012, 4:57 pm

Quote: Fleet Admiral Braxton @ Aug. 15 2012, 4:53 pm

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>2) Cut ALL Foreign Aid By At Least 75% Before Cutting Defense Or Entitlements.
Definitely agree that we need to cut foreign aid, but you do realize that entitlement spending is over half the federal budget and growing faster than anything else?

My Point Is, We Need To Take Care Of Our OWN People Before We Begin To Help People Overseas. It May Sound Selfish, But, If We Keep Ignoring The Needs Of Americans,That Exposes Us To A HUGE Can Of Worms. Not Hard To Figure Out.

And how do you think we should take care of our own?  These lifelong entitlements are enslaving the citizens to the government elite and running up massive debt, which only makes things a lot worse.

The best way for us to help our own is to unleash the people to be free.  Americans are the most generous people in the world, and the more free we are, the more we can... and do... help others.  (And the money doesn't need to be routed through a wasteful and controlling politician.)

I Don't See Where Entitlements That People Work Hard For All Their Lives Is Considered Enslavement. If One Pays His/Her Taxes And Know They Have Earned That Retirement, Then Just WHY Should They Have To Sacrifice Because Government Can't Use Common Sense? Even Though He Was A Crazy MoFo, At Least H.Ross Perot Had A Viable Plan.

FleetAdmiral_BamBam

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Report this Aug. 18 2012, 8:10 am

Quote: Fleet Admiral Braxton @ Aug. 17 2012, 4:20 pm

>I Don't See Where Entitlements That People Work Hard For All Their Lives Is Considered Enslavement. If One Pays His/Her Taxes And Know They Have Earned That Retirement, Then Just WHY Should They Have To Sacrifice Because Government Can't Use Common Sense? Even Though He Was A Crazy MoFo, At Least H.Ross Perot Had A Viable Plan.
There are multiple types of entitlements.  Common sense says that entitlements are stupid and that people should be responsible for themselves.  And many people never work for their entitlements - they just get them - being paid for by someone else.  Taxes shoiuld only be used to pay for Constitutional government (listed in the enumerated powers,) not redistrubuted to someone one else.... This is why entitlement spending is over half the federal budget and growing faster than any other area....  it's a Ponzi scheme.


darmokattanagra

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Report this Aug. 18 2012, 10:01 am

https://chart.googleapis.com/chart?cht=p3&chs=600x200&chf=bg,s,e8e8ff&chd=t:22,22,4,24,12,2,3,1,5,6&chl=Pensions%2022%|Health%20Care%2022%|Education%204%|Defense%2024%|Welfare%2012%|Protection%202%|Transportation%203%|General%20Government%201%|Other%20Spending%205%|Interest%206%&chtt=Federal%20Spending%20for%20United%20States%20-%20FY%202012


 


So our only options are:


1. Cut spending that helps people overseas.


2. Cut spending that helps poor people in the US.


3. Cut spending that helps old people in the US.



Maybe we should cut education too.

FleetAdmiral_BamBam

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Report this Aug. 18 2012, 11:32 am

Quote: darmokattanagra @ Aug. 18 2012, 10:01 am

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>So our only options are:

>1. Cut spending that helps people overseas.

>2. Cut spending that helps poor people in the US.

>3. Cut spending that helps old people in the US.

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Maybe we should cut education too.

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Yep... all the above and also cut other areas, including defense.  (Yes, I want the strongest / best military in the world, but do we really need to be the world's policeman?)  We need to get back to a Constitutional government where people are not rewarded for being irresponsible at the expense of those that are responsible.


FleetAdmiral_BamBam

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Report this Aug. 19 2012, 8:51 am

darmokattanagra

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Report this Aug. 29 2012, 3:36 pm

If we're spending more money on defense than anything else, why should that not be the first place to make cuts? Why do "compassionate conservatives" care more about making weapons than making sure kids don't go to bed hungry?

FleetAdmiral_BamBam

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Report this Aug. 29 2012, 3:41 pm

Quote: darmokattanagra @ Aug. 29 2012, 3:36 pm

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>If we're spending more money on defense than anything else, why should that not be the first place to make cuts? Why do "compassionate conservatives" care more about making weapons than making sure kids don't go to bed hungry?

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Entitlement spending is over half the budget, so why do ProRegressives keep saying that military spending is more than anything else?


darmokattanagra

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Report this Aug. 29 2012, 4:39 pm

Defense: 24%


Health care: 22%


Pensions: 22%


Welfare: 12%


Defense spending is the highest. You are just adding the others together to make it seem like we aren't spending that much on defense. Besides, when conservatives talk about "entitlements" they aren't talking about Medicare and Social Security, they're talking about food stamps and unemployment.


Also, why do you keep using the term ProRegressive? Wouldn't that make them anti-progressive?

FleetAdmiral_BamBam

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Report this Aug. 29 2012, 5:01 pm

Quote: darmokattanagra @ Aug. 29 2012, 4:39 pm

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>Defense: 24%

>Health care: 22%

>Pensions: 22%

>Welfare: 12%

>Defense spending is the highest. You are just adding the others together to make it seem like we aren't spending that much on defense. Besides, when conservatives talk about "entitlements" they aren't talking about Medicare and Social Security, they're talking about food stamps and unemployment.

>Also, why do you keep using the term ProRegressive? Wouldn't that make them anti-progressive?

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Entitlements are a group of things to include Medicare, social security, food stamps, etc - anything that is a redistribution of wealth.  You may split them into multiple categories but they all do the same thing and cannot be found in the enumerated powers of the US Constitution.  I could play your game and split up defense spending into multiple categories too, but I won't - it doesn't change the truth.  It's sad really.... the government does the same thing over and over and over again ... just call it different names.... and people swallow the story.


(Sidenote:  Do I think that Defense spending should be cut?  Of course! (Just check my other posts.)  But why is it that ProRegressives always want to first slash spending on Constitutional government instead of anti-Constitutional?) 


ProRegressives are called that because they demand to regress back to a time before the Constitution.... back when there were only two classes of people: the government and the serfs (slaves.)  [Note:  I won't call them 'liberals" because it would be a lie - liberal uses the same root word as liberty; something that the ProRegressives fight against.]


entropyman

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Report this Aug. 29 2012, 6:16 pm

Bam Bam, on a related note to your unwillingness to use the word "liberal", my brother for years swore up and down he was a liberal...I asked a slew of questions about what he believed in and when we were done he realised he was a conservative all along and only thought he was a liberal because he believed in liberty. I wonder how many so-called liberals are like my formerly ignorant bro.

FleetAdmiral_BamBam

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Report this Aug. 29 2012, 6:40 pm

Quote: entropyman @ Aug. 29 2012, 6:16 pm

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>Bam Bam, on a related note to your unwillingness to use the word "liberal", my brother for years swore up and down he was a liberal...I asked a slew of questions about what he believed in and when we were done he realised he was a conservative all along and only thought he was a liberal because he believed in liberty. I wonder how many so-called liberals are like my formerly ignorant bro.

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That's funny.  Many other countries correctly use the term Liberal based on it's original (correct) definition.  In the early 20th century when the ProRegressives in the USA got such a bad name, they decided to call themselves "liberals".... redefining the term.  Same people.... same agenda....  new label.


 


Labels can be misused all the time, so that's why I appreciate LTC West coming out and explaining that so many people in Congress are communists (under the guise of "Liberals" or "Progressives").... because of what they actually think and want to accomplish?  Why do so many people in Congress agree with the Communist platform (just tell everyone it's "Progressive", not "Communist".)


FleetAdmiral_BamBam

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Report this Oct. 03 2012, 10:55 am

Why did the USDA waste $55 MILLION advertising specialty crops?


 


http://usda.gov/wps/portal/usda/usdahome?contentid=2012/10/0315.xml

FleetAdmiral_BamBam

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Report this Oct. 04 2012, 9:45 pm

Judicial Watch just found out that the USDA hired a Chicago based consultant $200K+ to put on a "diversity workshop."  During this workshop, employees were ordered to chant, "our forefathers were illegal immigrants."   The senior investigator looking into this is quoted as saying, "It seemed to go so far as to encourage illegal immigration."


So now, instead of teaching diversity, the administration is paying to have government employees brainwashed with their political rhetoric.

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Report this Oct. 09 2012, 2:30 pm

So why isn't there any outrage from the left about Deputy Director for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, Penny Thompson, admission the massive FWA - in  excess of $15 billion just to NY alone....

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