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Why did O'Brien get his own Show and some else got to be the Capitan?

treehaa

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Report this Sep. 19 2011, 4:50 pm

 The one thing that drove me crazy on DS9 was the O'Brien and his family did not play a larger part, when Worf came on he had a bigger part. DS9 was Miles Edward O'Briens show not cisko 


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Report this Sep. 19 2011, 9:11 pm

DS9 was a collaborative effort -- no real star or central character.


One of the reasons that O'Brien was not more featured was a decision by Colm Meaney that he wanted to pursue a movie career at the time of DS9 (And so had in his contract that he would appear in less episodes than he might otherwise have done.) Rosalind Chao (Keiko) also had other gigs and Hana Hatae was just a kid (and not the most stellar actress if the truth be told) so it would have been quite prohibitive to try and feature her more.


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Matthias Russell

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Report this Sep. 19 2011, 9:28 pm

Colm Meaney has had more trek screen time than anyone else except Michael Dorn.  He was an extremely valued cast member in DS9.  The writers had an expression "O'Brien must suffer".  When there was an extremely difficult plot idea, they put O'Brien through it because they knew he could take it.  The writers respected the character and actor greatly.  I think he had better episodes than anyone!


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Report this Sep. 20 2011, 5:10 am

I never got the impression that DS9 was O'Brien's show.  I feel that all of the characters got pretty equal screentime & plot-specific episodes, with the exception of Jake Sisko. 


Paramount needs to release a blu-ray that is nothing but O'Brien Must Suffer episodes.


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Matthias Russell

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Report this Sep. 20 2011, 6:55 am

O'brien came over because he was a great character and actor. Producers also wanted a connection to TNG to help bring in viewers.

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Report this Oct. 29 2011, 10:39 pm

Yeah, it wasn't really "O'Brien's show" although that would have been preferable to what we got.  I still want an explanation of how a full LT gets "promoted" to CPO which, in spite of what the O stands for, is not really an officer rank.

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Report this Oct. 30 2011, 11:13 pm

Quote: Broadstorm @ Oct. 29 2011, 10:39 pm

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>I still want an explanation of how a full LT gets "promoted" to CPO which, in spite of what the O stands for, is not really an officer rank.

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Well....


Good luck with the waiting.


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Report this Oct. 31 2011, 7:01 am

I think OtakuJo covers all the bases above...  as far as my impression, my recollection at the time was that Meaney was moved over to provide a link to the TNG family, and seed the DS9 cast.  Also gave a great opportunity to develop O'Brien's character...  a character that gained a devoted following within TNG.


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Report this Oct. 31 2011, 3:31 pm

I too loved O'Brien and his stories. He was great on TNG and even better on DS9. He is an amazing actor, he goes from playing Miles to some sick characters as a guest star on shows. It was nice to see him spread his wings and shine. He was a bridge to link the 2 shows and it worked nicely.


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SeptuagintXXX

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Report this Oct. 31 2011, 3:52 pm

I never liked Keiko.  I always thought she seemed to mean.  I don't know what O'brien saw in her. 

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Report this Oct. 31 2011, 11:19 pm

Quote: SeptuagintXXX @ Oct. 31 2011, 3:52 pm

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>I never liked Keiko.  I always thought she seemed to mean.  I don't know what O'brien saw in her. 

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To be blunt, I suspect she was good at sex.


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Report this Nov. 01 2011, 6:26 am

Quote: OtakuJo @ Oct. 31 2011, 11:19 pm

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>To be blunt, I suspect she was good at sex.

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Into that whole "Geisha" thing, eh??? 


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Report this Dec. 05 2011, 6:37 pm

Quote: treehaa @ Sep. 19 2011, 4:50 pm

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> The one thing that drove me crazy on DS9 was the O'Brien and his family did not play a larger part, when Worf came on he had a bigger part. DS9 was Miles Edward O'Briens show not cisko 

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"DS9 was Miles Edward O'Briens show"???Your kidding right?


He wasnt the star of the show, period


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Report this Dec. 05 2011, 6:42 pm

Quote: Broadstorm @ Oct. 29 2011, 10:39 pm

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>Yeah, it wasn't really "O'Brien's show" although that would have been preferable to what we got.  I still want an explanation of how a full LT gets "promoted" to CPO which, in spite of what the O stands for, is not really an officer rank.

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they never really said he was a full lt, he just had the same type og rank pins.


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Report this Dec. 05 2011, 10:37 pm

Quote: Martoks Missing Eye @ Sep. 20 2011, 5:10 am

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>I never got the impression that DS9 was O'Brien's show.  I feel that all of the characters got pretty equal screentime & plot-specific episodes, with the exception of Jake Sisko. 

>Paramount needs to release a blu-ray that is nothing but O'Brien Must Suffer episodes.

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"O'brien Must Suffer" would make a good DVD set. A montage of O'brien and Bashir while drunk would be a good special feature.


Personally, I'd have preferred Ro Laren as a regular on DS9: she was a better character than Miles, though with less room to grow. Kira was an altogether more original creation, while O'brien always struggled against his typecasting as the everyman on TNG. The problem with trying to turn O'brien into a regular on DS9 was that TNG fans already had an idea of who he was, so the writers couldn't stretch his limits too far.

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