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Never Gonna happen Treknology and Technobabble

Matthias Russell

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Report this Sep. 12 2011, 9:21 pm

Fair enough, it's a fictional show with many things that are impossible with current technology and scientific theory. The point of this topic is to discuss the things that make absolutely no sense within the fictional world of Star Trek in light of established scientific fact.

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Report this Sep. 13 2011, 12:42 am

All right then. Interspecies breeding. Technically speaking, human crewmembers on the Enterprise ought to be more genetically compatible with Spot than they would be to have a baby with alien crewmembers.


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Report this Sep. 13 2011, 1:15 am

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This is more in the 'accidental' pregnancy aspect than the intentional one.  It's amazing how many unintentional pregnancies are possible in the Trek world when you'd figure it would take some serious medical treatment just to conceive a child between two different species.


I suppose that if two people were planning a child, however, modern medicene would make most couplings possible, so long as they were similar enough. 


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Report this Sep. 13 2011, 1:38 am

As for my thoughts on useless technology, it amazes me that we switched back to floppy disks somewhere in the 23rd century, though we seem to have outgrown them again somwhere in the mid 24th. 


Also, wristband flashlights...  Why?  Do you have any idea how tired your arm would get?  For that matter, why don't communicators have cameras?  And why don't they use simple air scrubbers for when life support goes offline? 


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Matthias Russell

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Report this Sep. 13 2011, 7:08 am

Quote: OtakuJo @ Sep. 13 2011, 12:42 am

All right then. Interspecies breeding. Technically speaking, human crewmembers on the Enterprise ought to be more genetically compatible with Spot than they would be to have a baby with alien crewmembers.



Wow. Hadn't thought of that. Good point. Species from different planets would have radically different genomes. The different chemistry would probably make for some wicked STDs as well. I suppose we could breed with Voth, correct?

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Report this Sep. 13 2011, 8:10 am

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>I suppose we could breed with Voth, correct?


That depends on whether or not you actually think The Voth came from Earth.  There are about a hundred better explinations that the episode completely ignores in favor of a crack-pot theory and bad science.


See my Distant Origin review for more details - It was one of Trek's worst episodes for the simple reasons that it was impossible to take seriously, and I found myself siding with the villians against our heroes.  It made the entire Voyager crew look like a bunch of idiots (not to mention the writers).


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Report this Sep. 13 2011, 8:16 am

Yeah, it didn't make sense. But come on, who doesn't love dinos? I remember reading a children's book when I was little about the duck billed dinos escaping earth on a spaceship so the episode seemed like plagiarism to me, unless that author was credited.

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Report this Sep. 13 2011, 9:23 am

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>I suppose we could breed with Voth, correct?

That depends on whether or not you actually think The Voth came from Earth.  There are about a hundred better explinations that the episode completely ignores in favor of a crack-pot theory and bad science.

See my Distant Origin review for more details - It was one of Trek's worst episodes for the simple reasons that it was impossible to take seriously, and I found myself siding with the villians against our heroes.  It made the entire Voyager crew look like a bunch of idiots (not to mention the writers).

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I couldn't find it, so I just reposted it in The Voyager section.


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Report this Sep. 13 2011, 1:43 pm

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>All right then. Interspecies breeding. Technically speaking, human crewmembers on the Enterprise ought to be more genetically compatible with Spot than they would be to have a baby with alien crewmembers.

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Weren't all the various aliens in Trek seeded throughout space by a race called The Preservers?


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Report this Sep. 13 2011, 1:52 pm

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Weren't all the various aliens in Trek seeded throughout space by a race called The Preservers?


Actually, that was The First Race, not The Preservers.  Either way, it would still be like trying to breed with a frog.


And yes, I know ST Online linked the two, and I think that's an interesting theory, but it's not canon. 


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Report this Sep. 13 2011, 2:50 pm

I know it isn't canon but I too liked the theory. Perhaps the Preservers are responsible for the many Earths as well.

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Report this Sep. 13 2011, 2:54 pm

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>I know it isn't canon but I too liked the theory. Perhaps the Preservers are responsible for the many Earths as well.


That's certainly a good theory as well.  Just because something isn't canon doesn't mean it wasn't a good idea.  I've read some great Trek books full of great connections.  One day, they might make it into a canon source.


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Report this Sep. 13 2011, 7:24 pm

warp drive and the transporter. that's for sure. The energy required to power one of those devices or even make a device like that would require more power than what the sun could generate.


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Report this Sep. 13 2011, 9:47 pm

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>I don't see how those ear-things made Chekov align himself with Khan in TWOK. Maybe he was so brain damaged that he was Khan's zombie but when Kirk ordered him to do something he should have become Kirk's zombie.

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hmm.... Heightened suggestibility huh...? I don't know why he would be only take ordered from Khan, either (unless Khan had told him to respond only to his voice or something like that.) But "KIRK'S ZOMBIE" would be a fantastic name for a rock album!


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Report this Sep. 14 2011, 7:06 am

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>I know it isn't canon but I too liked the theory. Perhaps the Preservers are responsible for the many Earths as well.

That's certainly a good theory as well.  Just because something isn't canon doesn't mean it wasn't a good idea.  I've read some great Trek books full of great connections.  One day, they might make it into a canon source.

I thought the 'Preservers' were mentioned in both TOS ('The Paradise Syndrome') and TNG maybe


Nope, just Paradise Syndrome.  It's too bad; You'd have thought we'd have run into their handywork more often.


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