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Why was Saavik on the Grissom?

Matthias Russell

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Report this Sep. 12 2011, 9:05 pm

She was on a command path and not even a graduate in TWOK.


Vulcans have a high degree of scientific appitude but both the political sensitivity of Genesis and the particulars of its nature demanded a small team.  Plus, was her knowledge of Genesis great enough that she would have been of value?  Did she graduate between the films?

Plus, David Marcus appeared to be the only Genesis scientist aboard.  Wouldn't some of the other scientists have been valuable, at least more valuable than Saavik?

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Report this Sep. 12 2011, 10:13 pm

All i can figure is because Saavik already new of genisis and had been there and they were trying to limit the amount of folks who had seen it. It being restricted and all. Dont have a clue about the other scientist, well Davids mom that is, cause all the other scienist were killed in ST II weren't they... Guess they didnt offer her enough money  lol


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Report this Sep. 12 2011, 10:24 pm

If they wanted to limit exposure, why not send Kirk and crew as opposed to a new ship and crew. The enterprise was still space worthy and on station. Sure the crew just went through quite the ordeal but they were probably best suited for the job and the best choice for preventing a leak.

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Report this Sep. 12 2011, 10:26 pm

Not only that, but as I stated Saavik was still a cadet. She really wasn't qualified for anything. She was also command, not science track.

She needed to make it back to class.

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Report this Sep. 12 2011, 10:30 pm

i agree... maybe the Grissom had Scientific equipment the enterprise didnt... maybe the E was to badly damaged... only things i can think of


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Report this Sep. 12 2011, 10:39 pm

Even badly damaged, I think a Connie has better facilities than an Oberth, lol.

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Report this Sep. 13 2011, 6:59 am

But Saavik was not an officer yet. Are they really going to use a cadet on such a sensitive mission; especially one with no science training?

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Report this Sep. 13 2011, 7:00 am

What would have been interesting would have been to have Carol Marcus instead of Saavik. Then her and Kirk face the death of their son together. Aaaaaaaaaaaand, Spock sleeps with Kirk's ex.

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Report this Sep. 13 2011, 7:45 am

i would think your right about the ships, but even though much smaller it was a scientific vessel soo... who knows


cadet ornot saavic was still vulcan... guess thats what they were thinking


i wish Carol would have been there... but guess they figured someone for Spock under the cercumstances was better then someone fo Kirk


 


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Report this Sep. 13 2011, 8:09 am

Evil? Those 2 situations would have made some extremely emotional drama.

Security? They probably didn't have any red shirts on that small vessel. Probably thought the chances of a hostile lifeforms and klingons were non existent, too.

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Report this Sep. 13 2011, 9:30 am

Actually, Saavik WAS an officer. Her official rank was Lieutennant. That is in stark contrast to other crewmembers who wore cadet jumpsuits and were referred to as "cadet" through the course of the film.


I think it likely that Saavik is an academy graduate who originally studied sciences, but went back to "grad school" to gain her command certification. When we see her in TWOK, she is likely taking the Maru test and her tour aboard the Enterprise as kind of her final "internship" before getting back out into the duty rotation within the fleet.


Also, since the Grissom is strictly a science vessle, and the Connie is more of a "generalist," it's not unreasonable to assume that the facilities of the Grissiom were better suited for this specific mission profile than the Enterprise's.


Also, it seems kind of clear in the film that Starfleet / Federation bureaucracy wants to effectively bury Kirk and crew under the carpet on the whole "Genesis Incident."


 


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Report this Sep. 13 2011, 1:40 pm

Reasonable explanation. I can't really argue it except that other trek material would indicate that the Maru is an undergrad test. Sure she wasn't command track at first in your theory but neither were Uhura or Mccoy in st09 and they took it.

And where WAS Carol Marcus?

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Report this Sep. 13 2011, 3:26 pm

I think it would make sense that with only two survivors of the Regula 1 station, someone had to study the planet first hand, but someone else needed to be debreiefed by who knows how many people, both Federation and Starfleet. No doubt Carol volunteered for that so her son can have the 'fun part' while she is up to her eyeballs in politics.


Seems like the only sensible explination in a any case.


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Report this Sep. 13 2011, 5:43 pm

Reasonable.

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Report this Sep. 13 2011, 5:54 pm

No doubt she'll spend many years greaving the decision, but I'd rather focus my energies on your inspired question: What was Saavik doing there in the first place?


Watching Saavik's interaction with David, I can believe that Saavik argued to be assigned to this mission, and David no doubt vouched for her at the least, or made her his assistant at the most, as a debt to Kirk perhaps? Also, I've heard it from Kirk himself that cadets can be assigned to vessels as part of thier advanced curriculum at the academy. Saavik, with Spock's training can be a valuable crewmember, even as a trainee, and giving her a provisional rank is not out of the question...not after Pike's (whatever) induced lunacy to jump Kikr from cadet to first officer. Cadet to Lt. seems downright normal when compared to that.


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