Did The Episode "Regeneration" Live up to normal Borg Standards

VortaAlex

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Report this Aug. 27 2011, 12:40 pm

I think that the episode did very well!


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Report this Aug. 27 2011, 1:51 pm

Yeah it was better than some VGR episodes, by that I mean it actually inspired a little fear of the Borg. Now the whole assimilated Phlox and he fines a cure thing, I didn't like so much.

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Report this Aug. 27 2011, 3:29 pm

Define 'normal?'


It was better than a lot of the Voyager Borg episodes and had Decent beaten out, but it was nowhere near as good as the original Borg trilogy.


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Report this Aug. 27 2011, 3:40 pm

True I don't think Enterprise should have handled the Borg or the Ferengi, the whole series should have been about a build to the Earth Romulan War, the forging of the Federation, and exploration. Not encountering a villian more powerful than 24th century Starfleet, they had enough on their hand with the Klingons and Romulans, who were more advanced than us.

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Report this Aug. 27 2011, 3:42 pm

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>I didn't dislike the episode, it was pretty exciting - but I don't think Enteprrise should have gone there.

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Agreed.  I thought they did well with what they had, but they shouldn't have done a Borg episode in the first place.


Their Ferengi experiment was not nearly as successful...


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Report this Aug. 27 2011, 5:05 pm

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>I didn't dislike the episode, it was pretty exciting - but I don't think Enteprrise should have gone there.

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Agreed.  I thought they did well with what they had, but they shouldn't have done a Borg episode in the first place.

Their Ferengi experiment was not nearly as successful...

I was all "Ferengi'd" out after DS9.


The Ferengi as a plot device are really a fine concept.  However, Ferengi as the center of attention are not.


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Report this Aug. 27 2011, 8:25 pm

I am a teeny bit "meh" about most Borg episodes, so may be a little biased in this case, but I don't think it even met the standards of a better Enterprise episode.


I don't hate it. But it's not particularly interesting to me either and at present, I generally end up being glad to see it end.


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Report this Aug. 27 2011, 9:13 pm

I love ALL borg episodes!! this episode refering back to the "first contact" thing made me happy. also the whole thing about "that borg signal [of earth cordinates] wont reach borg space for another 200 years" , cause its like haha yeah postpone it to next generation/voyager time, and we know what happens there...


dont know what previous people were talking about with the ferengi, cause im quite sure they weren't in it. 


i also wish they didnt find a "cure" cause wouldnt the later geerations of star trek have used that? also, i kinda just want the borg to be all-powerful and win.

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Report this Aug. 27 2011, 9:22 pm

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The Ferengi were in a different episode of first season Enterprise.


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Report this Aug. 28 2011, 6:18 am


I kind of liked the tie in with the borg at first I thought it was a lame attempt to bring the borg into the show (ok it was a lame attempt) we don’t always get to see what happens when all these aliens run around changing the time line.


 


 

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Report this Aug. 28 2011, 8:17 am

I enjoyed the episode, though my Borg interest has been here and there over the years. Blinkn makes a good point, that Archer was facing a species which was so powerful two centuries later. And there are many fans, who disike the ep for if nothing else canon issues, but, I didn't sweat that here. I was very interested to see it. Liked the chilling little note laid out by Jon for what would be his captain-descendent.....but, you would think that the contact with such a unique race would have triggered alarm bells down the road, but, eh....


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Report this Aug. 28 2011, 3:21 pm

Very True They Shouldnt havfe stould a chance against the borg! Plus at the end when the borg sent a message to the collective the borg never came to assimilate earth. And Lastly in The Next Generation there was no prior contact with the borg. The Creators should have assumed all of these thing when makeing the episode!


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Report this Aug. 28 2011, 4:57 pm

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>I am a teeny bit "meh" about most Borg episodes, so may be a little biased in this case, but I don't think it even met the standards of a better Enterprise episode.

>I don't hate it. But it's not particularly interesting to me either and at present, I generally end up being glad to see it end.

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That's how I feel about it.


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Report this Aug. 28 2011, 11:37 pm

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>Actually they seem to insinuate that the Borg do get the message.  But I felt that they treated the Star Trek fans like idiots when they pointed this out:

>T'POL: Did you learn where the message was sent?
ARCHER: Somewhere deep in the Delta Quadrant.
T'POL: Then I doubt there's any immediate danger. It would take at least two hundred years for a subspace message to reach the Delta Quadrant, assuming it's received at all.
ARCHER: Sounds to me like we've only postponed the invasion until what, the 24th century?

>I think they just spelled it out too much. 

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Yeah -- that bit was some pretty blatant fanservice I guess. They fall down at times on the "show don't tell" rules. (That pretty well happens across every series sometimes.)


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Report this Aug. 29 2011, 9:59 am

A lot of people hate on this episode but I thought it was an interesting continuance to First Contact. It also helps explain how the Hansens knew about the Borg before Q Who.

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