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Which captain best understood/interpreted the Prime Directive?

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Report this Aug. 31 2011, 7:42 pm

I have to admit, Lostshaker, your reasoning on "the apple", though seemingly silly, is not too inplausable.  If your theory is correct, Kirk was wrong but I just can't believe your theory is true.  I believe Kirk did the right thing in restoring the people so they could advance naturally; the fact they were male and female tells me they were inhibited and even if that inhibition came from themselves millenia before, they were flawed by what had become, at that point, a foreign influence.  Still, i can't firmly stand against you.

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Report this Aug. 31 2011, 7:46 pm

VOY: "Prime Factors"


 


Janeway is on the receiving end of another race's prime directive and she begs them to reconsider, even offering them a trade to seduce them into breaking their most sacred law.  Though she refuses to take the technology she wants, she does keep asking the aliens to break there law.  The episode tried to show Janeway would not violate the Prime Directive when on the receiving end of it, but I think the fact that she felt the aliens SHOULD violate their prime directive and asked them to do so shows she has little regard for the PD.


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Report this Aug. 31 2011, 10:26 pm

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>What about Kirk's actions in 'The Paradise Syndrome' or 'Miri' Both were pre-Warp cultures and heading to natural doom or one of their own making. Did he violate the PD here?

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Both "Paradise..." and "Miri" are interesting examples. In "Miri", the civilization was for practical purposes dead. Adults no longer existed to forward the culture. The children weren't physically mature enough to procreate and perpetuate the species. By the time they were sexually mature, they were old enough to contract the disease. The episode's ending is vague, as it is unclear if the children will be adopted and integrated into the Federation or ultimately left to govern themselves. Captain's discretion seems to apply.


Kirk didn't seem that aware of the mission specifics, like the Indian occupants, when he first beamed down to the planet in "The Paradise Syndrome". It almost seemed more like Starfleet had ordered him to deflect the asteroid, though this was never explicitly stated. It should also be considered that the Indians weren't native to the planet, but instead planted there by the Preservers. I'm willing to give Kirk the benefit of the doubt because I don't believe the audience is given enough information to make a solid determination.


Overall, the vagueness in both episodes works in Kirk's favor whereas the vagueness in "The Apple" works against him.


In general, I do think Starfleet is willing to deflect asteroids whether it's the 23rd or 24th Century. An asteroid is an external event in comparison to localized events of volcanoes, earthquakes, atmospheric deterioration, etc...

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Report this Aug. 31 2011, 10:29 pm

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>Although I agree with the lostshaker in that we dont know what caused these people to be so stupid (a dark period is mentioned), I do not think Kirk should have been tried or court martialed. The life of his crew was at stake. "400 people" are going to die he said. Kirk was desperate and I dont think Starfleet would mind very much if he intervenes with a primitive culture. They destroyed vaul because he was a threat to them. Kirk did the right thing.

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I admit to an exaggeration when I mentioned a court martial.

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Report this Aug. 31 2011, 10:31 pm

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Aug. 31 2011, 7:42 pm

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>I have to admit, Lostshaker, your reasoning on "the apple", though seemingly silly, is not too inplausable.

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I agree it is silly, and I'm glad you picked up on that as I was going for a possibility in the spirit of TOS.

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