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Sigurth

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Report this Jul. 01 2011, 7:28 pm

Should TAS and/or the FASA RPG material have been made canon?

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Report this Jul. 01 2011, 7:29 pm

I think so.

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Report this Jul. 01 2011, 7:41 pm

It is included.


We learn what the T in James T Kirk means in TAS.


The first use of a holodeck is seen in TAS.


There are two examples right there.


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Report this Jul. 02 2011, 7:56 am

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>Whose to say that TAS isn't canon.

>They have a board for it and are showing it on this website.

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Gene Rodenberry, Dorothy Fontana, Gene Coon, Rick Berman, Brannan Braga and Jeri Taylor, just to name a few.


This website is meaningless in the grand scheme of things.  Only a showrunner can decide what is canon and what is not. 


I wouldn't have a problem with TAS being made canon - I'm not really rooting for it, but I wouldn't have a problem with it.  FASA however, is not, should never be and will never be canon.


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Report this Jul. 03 2011, 2:38 am

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>Whose to say that TAS isn't canon.

>They have a board for it and are showing it on this website.

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Gene Rodenberry, Dorothy Fontana, Gene Coon, Rick Berman, Brannan Braga and Jeri Taylor, just to name a few.

This website is meaningless in the grand scheme of things.  Only a showrunner can decide what is canon and what is not. 

I wouldn't have a problem with TAS being made canon - I'm not really rooting for it, but I wouldn't have a problem with it.  FASA however, is not, should never be and will never be canon.

Were they all in agreement o what was and was not canon?

I mean Brannan and Braga would probably be happy to decanonise TOS completely.

None of those guys are in charge anymore anyway. So who decides now?

As there are no loner episodes being made - only books and movies then its actually those guys who decide isn't it?


Each one had little changes to canon that they decided on for one reason or another, like Braga pulling Threshold and Gene pulling parts of STV.  Fontana actually canonized TAS' Yesteryear, though that was the closest TAS ever got to becoming canon.  FASA has never even been considered. 


Right now, no one decides, since there's no show-runner.  This means canon won't change until a new show-runner is chosen.  Books are licenced, but not owned by Trek's rights holders, and have never been considered canon, nor does anyone at Pocket Books have the right to decide on Trek's canon status.


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Report this Jul. 03 2011, 8:54 am

There is no such beast as Star Trek "canon" Period.

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Report this Jul. 03 2011, 2:27 pm

The reason Star Wars can consider their books canon is because they jealously guard their licences.  All books are (allegedly) approved by Lucas himself, and they are writen by a hand-picked team of writers.


Trek, on the other hand, is made up of writers from all over, with no central purpose in mind, who just happened to get their book licenced.  The books don't even keep canon with themselves and go into completely contradictory territory. 


The bottom line is, if you want Trek books to become canon, you'd need to delineate the two strings of books, disallow all submitted matieriel and hire a specific group of writers to drive the story. 


So, I'm not sure why anyone would want to do that. 


TAS would be far easier to canonize, since there's really only a few conflicts I can think of, and there's not a lot of matieriel to keep straight.  I don't think it should, but at least it's possible.  Books cannot be reconciled.


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