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Report this Jun. 14 2011, 3:18 pm

A Dell laptop (PC) with firefox. Although I mostly use Windows XP. I'm too cool for Mac.


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Report this Jun. 14 2011, 3:30 pm

MacBook Pro dual booting OS X 10.6 and Windows XP SP3.

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Report this Jun. 14 2011, 3:31 pm

a black one


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Report this Jun. 14 2011, 3:33 pm

Quote: Jim Kirk @ Jun. 13 2011, 2:42 pm

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>90% of the people use PCs why would you use anything else?

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There are situations where Windows PCs are not the best tool for the job.

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Report this Jun. 14 2011, 3:35 pm

Quote: the bungalo bill @ Jun. 12 2011, 11:23 am

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>I am currently on a Mac. Sometimes I use a PC, But I never use a phone.

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Macs are PCs.


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Report this Jun. 14 2011, 3:42 pm

Quote: Xtwozero @ Jun. 14 2011, 1:04 am

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>1. It's easy to hack and is difficult to keep it secure and expensive on 3rd party (MacAfee and Norton) subscriptions. You cannot open the program files and make changes to the software.  It can only run MS windows software.  

>2. Linux has a structured architecture that makes it very secure and is virtually unhackable. Is open source so is free of charge to the user.  Can be run securely without a firewall,  is not open to viruses, trojans , worms etc, etc, so no need  to pay for security.  Also is impervious to spyware.  Uses open source software so you can modify and change programs.  Can even run windows programs using the 'Wine' software. (also free to use).  Can open and manipulate windows files so is ideal for hacking windows machines.  Doesn't slow down and never crashes and can even be run on older PC's (although runs a lot slower) but this means you don't have to keep buying new hardware just to run the lastest version.

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1.  Windows is secure enough if you take the time to keep it updated and don't visit sketchy websites.  Most of the problems with any computer stems from the user, not the OS.  It does pretty much only run Windows software, but Microsoft does an admirable job at maintaining legacy support; arguably to the detriment of the security of the OS.


I've found that Microsoft Security Essentials is just as good as Norton and McAfee.  I'd recommend staying away from anything Norton.  It's nothing but trouble.


2. You never run a mission critical machine without a hardware firewall, even Linux.  While its security paradigm is, in theory, inherently more secure than Windows, it is not invulnerable.  The most common form of attack is privilege escalation.


OS X by comparison is very similar.  It is UNIX based and shares the same security policy as Linux.  Currently the only main malware on OS X requires user intervention.  The "attack" would work on Linux, as well, if the application was created for it.  A system is only as secure as the person using it.

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Report this Jun. 14 2011, 6:43 pm

The reason there's so many more viruses and mal-ware for Windows-based systems versus for Mac or Linux is because the majority of people use Windows-based systems. Other people want to cause as much damage as possible, so what would be the point of making viruses for systems that aren't used as much?

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Report this Jun. 15 2011, 1:03 am

Quote: Chief Warrant Officer Finn @ Jun. 14 2011, 3:42 pm

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>1.  Windows is secure enough if you take the time to keep it updated and don't visit sketchy websites.  Most of the problems with any computer stems from the user, not the OS.  It does pretty much only run Windows software, but Microsoft does an admirable job at maintaining legacy support; arguably to the detriment of the security of the OS.

>I've found that Microsoft Security Essentials is just as good as Norton and McAfee.  I'd recommend staying away from anything Norton.  It's nothing but trouble.

>2. You never run a mission critical machine without a hardware firewall, even Linux.  While its security paradigm is, in theory, inherently more secure than Windows, it is not invulnerable.  The most common form of attack is privilege escalation.

>OS X by comparison is very similar.  It is UNIX based and shares the same security policy as Linux.  Currently the only main malware on OS X requires user intervention.  The "attack" would work on Linux, as well, if the application was created for it.  A system is only as secure as the person using it.

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1/  I agree with you..... windows security is high maintenance and can be expensive but IMHO these are all devices to extract money from windows users as I'm pretty sure that with all Bill's resources available to them MS could have  solved a lot of these security issues permanently.....  but you don't get to be a billionaire by doing people favours.


2/ The machine I was referring to wasn't a 'mission critical' machine it was just an old laptop I loaded an early ubuntu distro' on with no firewall and used it for internet browsing purposes only for several years with no problems.  The system I use now has a built in firewall and would agree that is always best to make your browsing as secure as possible.


3/ I agree with this point in that a Linux system could be infected by malware but the difference is that the Linux user would have to invite it in and give it the necessary permissions to enter the system.  By contrast windows users can be infected by merely cliking on a bogus link on a web page.


Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with windows, but that's probably only because I would never use it. 


 


 

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Report this Jun. 15 2011, 1:16 am

Quote: Invader_Wishfire @ Jun. 14 2011, 6:43 pm

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>The reason there's so many more viruses and mal-ware for Windows-based systems versus for Mac or Linux is because the majority of people use Windows-based systems. Other people want to cause as much damage as possible, so what would be the point of making viruses for systems that aren't used as much?

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Ah...... the victim of its own success argument.  Do you not think that it's a bit like GM saying that because this model is the most popular car in our showroom we won't put an alarm or an immobiliser  on it cos we don't want to upset the criminal fraternity.

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Report this Jun. 15 2011, 2:31 am

Quote: Xtwozero @ Jun. 15 2011, 1:16 am

Quote: Invader_Wishfire @ Jun. 14 2011, 6:43 pm

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>The reason there's so many more viruses and mal-ware for Windows-based systems versus for Mac or Linux is because the majority of people use Windows-based systems. Other people want to cause as much damage as possible, so what would be the point of making viruses for systems that aren't used as much?

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Ah...... the victim of its own success argument.  Do you not think that it's a bit like GM saying that because this model is the most popular car in our showroom we won't put an alarm or an immobiliser  on it cos we don't want to upset the criminal fraternity.


That has got to be the worst analogy I have ever seen. That scenario isn't even remotely similar to what I wrote of.


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Report this Jun. 15 2011, 3:00 am

Quote: Invader_Wishfire @ Jun. 15 2011, 2:31 am

Quote: Xtwozero @ Jun. 15 2011, 1:16 am

Quote: Invader_Wishfire @ Jun. 14 2011, 6:43 pm

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>The reason there's so many more viruses and mal-ware for Windows-based systems versus for Mac or Linux is because the majority of people use Windows-based systems. Other people want to cause as much damage as possible, so what would be the point of making viruses for systems that aren't used as much?

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Ah...... the victim of its own success argument.  Do you not think that it's a bit like GM saying that because this model is the most popular car in our showroom we won't put an alarm or an immobiliser  on it cos we don't want to upset the criminal fraternity.

That has got to be the worst analogy I have ever seen. That scenario isn't even remotely similar to what I wrote of.

In that case I don't understand the point you are making either. All I am saying is that if Microsoft wanted to make windows as secure as Linux they could. They choose not to, so as a consequence windows users are easy prey for hackers and scamsters. So the ecriminals continue to focus their attention on windows users cos (a) They are easy pickings and (b) there's so many of 'em.... why bother making life tough for yourself. The irony of it all is that hackers (Black hat and White hat) use Linux to crack windows PC's.... that should tell you something.

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Report this Jun. 15 2011, 6:31 am

Quote: wissa @ Jun. 14 2011, 3:31 pm

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>a black one

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Is the monitor black too?


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Report this Jun. 15 2011, 7:01 am

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Quote: wissa @ Jun. 14 2011, 3:31 pm

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>a black one

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Is the monitor black too?


 


yes  it is


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Report this Jun. 15 2011, 7:04 am

Cool.


My monitor screen is porous... and rocky.


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