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Star Trek Nemesis: 9 years later

Eagle2828

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Report this Sep. 18 2011, 6:47 pm


everyone has their own opinion i guess and it just depends on what your movie style is. Personally star trek 5 and nemesis are my favourite movies of them all but i agree it shouldn'y have been the last because of this i have watched the film many times over.


 

Matthias Russell

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Report this Sep. 18 2011, 8:03 pm

As I published in another thread, it is still true.


http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20021213/REVIEWS/212130305/1023


"I'm sitting there during "Star Trek: Nemesis," the 10th "Star Trek" movie, and I'm smiling like a good sport and trying to get with the dialogue about the isotronic Ruritronic signature from planet Kolarus III, or whatever the hell they were saying, maybe it was "positronic," and gradually it occurs to me that "Star Trek" is over for me. I've been looking at these stories for half a lifetime, and, let's face it, they're out of gas."-Roger Ebert


Captain Sam

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Report this Sep. 18 2011, 8:46 pm

i never was a fan of Ebert. And i'll leave that at that.


I think some of the Star Treks a strayed far from what it means to be Star Trek. I guess due to the powers that be. leaving it to people that make movies instead of people who can make Star Trek... well thats just blind ignorance. Some things you just cant use and artistic take from outside the realm. Givng it to some one who is popular and whos the lastest craise to put there spin on it... well that is just unwise. It needs a "heart of Trek" not a passion of "i'm the man". Star Trek is at a pivital point and I think the next is curcial to its domian.


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if you dont want to lose your cash cow then make sure that you choose the people that will make further Star Treks from the believers heart and not from the folks that only just know how to make a blockbuster. Look at your numbers. I don't think the new fans you've gained from the "transformed" Star Trek is worth the trade of the infinintely larger base that you had. Change is not the problem, Change to common stock is I think theres common ground to have both. It's up to you.


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LtPondwater9

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Report this Sep. 19 2011, 2:29 pm

Quote: Kornula @ Jun. 15 2011, 10:05 am

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>Am I the only Trek fan who sees the blatent (cheap) copy of Wrath of Khan here??

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Wow. It didn't dawn on me until you mentioned it but now that I've thought about it. It does seem that way.


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scottjimenez

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Report this Sep. 26 2011, 3:06 pm

at komula....blatent copy? man, get ahold of yourself. i have said again and again....the no- win scenario=sacfifice is the only comparison. khan was out for revenge for pure hate over just one man. the romulan military were planning on using a human in a coo and using discardable remans for the blood work...nice and cover-up-able...


 

Creative-Juices

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Report this Sep. 28 2011, 11:47 am

Quote: CloakedTerror @ Jun. 14 2011, 12:14 am

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>Wow, I cannot believe it's been nine years!  I remember going to see it with a friend on opening night, and then again later in the month with some family members.  I actually like Nemesis and don't really have a problem with it.  It was, in my opinion, a much better way to finish the TNG films, instead of ending it with Insurrection.  Some of the things I liked about it:

>1) Dinah Meyer makes a pretty hot Romulan woman.  Her eyes are gorgeous!

>2) Riker and Troi finally getting married and Picard's best man speech (which I really liked and thought it was vintage Picard)

>3) Admiral Janeway: "How'd you like a trip to Romulus?"

>    Picard: "With or without the rest of the fleet?"

>4) Data: "It appears to be a robotic arm."

>    Worf: "Very astute!"

>Followed by the whole driving off the cliff and landing in the shuttle sequence.

>5) Picard and Data escaping from the Scimitar.

>6) The whole final space battle was pretty epic.  The Scimitar blasting out the front of the Enterprise bridge and the helmsman getting sucked out into space before the forcefield goes up.  The new Warbirds showing up to help.  The Enterprise ramming the Scimitar.  Picard beaming over to take matters into his own hands and wasting everyone in his path.  Data having to "fly" over to the Scimitar.  I thought all of this was rather bad ass. 

>7) Riker: "Serving with you...has been an honor."

>    Picard: "The honor was mine....Captain."

>Sure Nemesis has it's flaws, but I wouldn't say it was horrible.  There are certainly things they could have done better, but I think on the whole it was an enjoyable Trek film.

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I agree wholeheartedly!


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OtakuJo

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Report this Sep. 29 2011, 4:33 am

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Sep. 18 2011, 8:03 pm

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>As I published in another thread, it is still true.

>http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20021213/REVIEWS/212130305/1023

>"I'm sitting there during "Star Trek: Nemesis," the 10th "Star Trek" movie, and I'm smiling like a good sport and trying to get with the dialogue about the isotronic Ruritronic signature from planet Kolarus III, or whatever the hell they were saying, maybe it was "positronic," and gradually it occurs to me that "Star Trek" is over for me. I've been looking at these stories for half a lifetime, and, let's face it, they're out of gas."-Roger Ebert

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That post just makes me feel pitifully sorry for Roger Ebert.


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Treknoir

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Report this Sep. 29 2011, 11:00 am

Quote: OtakuJo @ Sep. 29 2011, 4:33 am

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Sep. 18 2011, 8:03 pm

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>As I published in another thread, it is still true.

>http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20021213/REVIEWS/212130305/1023

>"I'm sitting there during "Star Trek: Nemesis," the 10th "Star Trek" movie, and I'm smiling like a good sport and trying to get with the dialogue about the isotronic Ruritronic signature from planet Kolarus III, or whatever the hell they were saying, maybe it was "positronic," and gradually it occurs to me that "Star Trek" is over for me. I've been looking at these stories for half a lifetime, and, let's face it, they're out of gas."-Roger Ebert

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That post just makes me feel pitifully sorry for Roger Ebert.


It makes me feel the opposite. I admire him for telling the truth. And sorry folks, no matter how much people want to gloss over this fact, it is the truth. It is why there were no more TNG movies. It is why ENT was eventually cancelled. ST had run out of steam. It is why we have a recent reboot movie that may never circle back to the prime universe again.


I can understand fans loving the franchise through thick and thin, but numbers don't lie.


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SpearMintKing

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Report this Sep. 30 2011, 2:07 pm

St trek nemesis was a good movie. To me it was a action more and didn't feel like like a trek movie. But still i liked it.

PeepsMcJuggs

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Report this Sep. 30 2011, 3:05 pm

Quote: Kornula @ Jun. 15 2011, 10:05 am

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>Am I the only Trek fan who sees the blatent (cheap) copy of Wrath of Khan here??

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No, no you are not.  I despised Nemesis...even more so when I discovered that all the truly Trek scenes were cut from the movie.


And to answer the original question: yes, it still sucks that much.  I guess that's what happens when you hire a director that's never watched Star Trek.


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SpearMintKing

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Report this Oct. 01 2011, 2:56 am

True I saw the similarites. Some where on the net it is mentioned the Mr Frakes was more than interested in directing nemesis. They should of let him. He did a great job with First Contact.

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