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No Matter What...Can President Obama be defeated in 2012? No. He can't.

caltrek2

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Report this Jun. 04 2011, 7:45 am

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>As far as politicians being "Lesser of Two evils" rather than "Better of Best", that comes more down to available choices than to the critical thinking of the populace.

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I disagree. A critical thinker recognizes that the American Political Party System, as it stands with Republicans and Democrats, is largely to control the vote and retain power. The reality is that power will shift between the two extremes, rather than being dispersed over multiple parties or with the people. A Two Party System, in terms of ideals, is little better than a dictatorship.

A critically thinking populace wouldn't stand for the polarizingly limited choices, and attempt to forward a more competent candidate by less traditional means. Stephen Colbert satirically demonstrated how an average person, meeting the qualifications for office, had to either kiss Democratic a$$ or bribe Republicans to get on a ballet in his home state. 

"The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to the doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can "throw the bums out" at any election without leading to any profound or extreme shifts in policy. Either party in office becomes in time corrupt, tired, unenterprising, and vigorless. Then it should be possible to replace it, every four years if necessary, by the other party, which will be none of these things but will still persue, with new vigor, approximately the same basic policies." -- Carroll Quigley, "Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time"


Sure, I mean we can't have the people thinking that they should actually have a choice in how things are run. I mean that could lead to anarchy, cats breeding with dogs, and all sorts of other ungodly acts against nature. America should pursue the one true course, except for an occasional change of personnel.


 


 


As Americans, we sometimes suffer from too much pluribus and not enough unum. - Arthur Schelsinger, Jr.

the bungalo bill

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Report this Jun. 04 2011, 9:03 am

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That's just racist. If Hillary Clinton went against John McCain (just an example), he is saying that most men would vote for McCain, and most women for Clinton. If you are an educated American (like me), you will not vote for someone based on gender or race.


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Report this Jun. 04 2011, 9:45 am

Death to america... Jihad!!!!


hahahahahahhaaaaa... just kiddin.


WOW, i haven't been this confused since I was like 3 and i got my first kiss!


In one hand, I say "Who gives a crap who wrote that letter cuz it is 100% correct." In the other hand I have a big piece of crap. That being all of the Reppubbo candidates. Really, is it a win if Obama wins? He got the country in the middle of a trainwreck and it is still on fire, so I don't see a win for him. AND he is turning out to be a bad president, that is not a win for us.


hmmmmmmmm... I think I will go to McDonalds. Are they still serving breakfast at 11:45 CST?


Vote Ronald McDonald in 2012, We can't get much worse.



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lostshaker

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Report this Jun. 04 2011, 1:33 pm

I could have written in somebody but they would not have won...


"But at least we have the moral highground!" - The Doctor/Doctor Who (...and the right to complain).


Sure, I mean we can't have the people thinking that they should actually have a choice in how things are run. I mean that could lead to anarchy,


"Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria!" - Peter Venkman


 


 

caltrek2

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Report this Jun. 04 2011, 2:11 pm

I could have written in somebody but they would not have won...


 


"But at least we have the moral highground!" - The Doctor/Doctor Who (...and the right to complain).


Right to complain? Like when the guys with the SS uniforms actually started marching us off to the concentration camps. I'm sorry, one (possibly two) stolen elections, violation of the FISA statutes (the practiuce continues under Obama but at least they legalized it) and a war based on fabricated "intelligence" were about all I could stand for one decade.


In contrast, Obama has done good damage contrl on the economy and enacted significant health care reform. Many will sneer at those accomplishments, but I mark them down as plusses. Now, if only we could get him to see the light regarding the need to pull out of Afghanistan... 


Sure, I mean we can't have the people thinking that they should actually have a choice in how things are run. I mean that could lead to anarchy,



"Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria!" - Peter Venkman


Ghost Busters right? Did I at least get the right movie?


 


 

lostshaker

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Report this Jun. 04 2011, 2:20 pm

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Most certainly!


Oh, and too elaborate... the right to complain was not meant in reference to any one candidate. I was being very broad and somewhat sarcastic.

OtakuJo

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Report this Jun. 04 2011, 5:37 pm

That's the thing. I see the OP referenced article as being satirical, and hopefully by this to encourage people to think critically. Well... obviously I can't vote in your election...



I fully admit that I may have gone from critical thinking to cynical thinking. The "All Pollies Suck" mode. But absolutely; for those who believe they still can, aim for a legitimate Choice.


*yes. The capital C was deliberate.


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FleetAdmiral_BamBam

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Report this Jun. 04 2011, 6:42 pm

^^



6 - Never, ever, ever trust a politician or anyone seeking political office.



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Report this Jun. 04 2011, 7:02 pm

If The Obama wants to be reelected all he has to do is recycle his 2008 campaign and say that things need to change. The suckers will eat that up.

caltrek2

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Report this Jun. 06 2011, 3:52 am

"But at least we have the moral highground!" - The Doctor/Doctor Who (...and the right to complain).


"the right to complain was not meant in reference to any one candidate. I was being very broad and somewhat sarcastic."


It would have helped if I had remembered the episode of Dr. Who cited. My fault, not yours. Oh well.


Good to see you know your Star Trek and your Dr. Who. 

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