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Borg Cube vs Death Star

randy kerr

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Report this Apr. 21 2012, 3:32 pm

the borg will over whelm the death star.


i love all star trek shows and movies.

chr33355

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Report this Apr. 21 2012, 4:51 pm

Quote: Camorite @ Apr. 21 2012, 2:37 pm

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>So you put a targeting comupter on a prototype that was only build to test if the super laser could work to hit something no one ever wanted it to hit?

>wrong, the only way that they could hit the suncrusher is with a targeting computer. or are you saying that that idiot administrator, who probably never even touched a blaster, let alone the controls for the sdp, could hit a target the size of the suncrusher manually.

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 So why put a targeting computer that good on a platform only built to see if the superlasers worked only to then replace said targeting computer with a inferior one on the final product?


chr33355

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Report this Apr. 21 2012, 4:55 pm

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>here's what the book said:

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 This says nothing about the DSI not being able to fire at less than full power only that it was limited to one full power shot a day.  Nor does it say what the fixes entail only that the engineering problems were fixed, which is generally the purpose behind a prototype.


chr33355

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Report this Apr. 21 2012, 4:56 pm

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>Just remember in the last book of the jedi academy trilogy the Death Star Prototype manages to target and graze the starfighter sized Sun Crusher.  The prototype wouldn't have near as sophiscated targeting system as the final product.

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 This is my original claim

Yeah, and you do realize you only defeated yourself by posting that.
 How?

Because you just acknowledged that the dsp hit the sun crusher with its sl.
 When did I ever say the DSP didn't.  I stated that because the DSP did hit a fighter sized target and would not have near as good of a targeting system as the final product.


Camorite

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Report this Apr. 21 2012, 5:23 pm

Quote: chr33355 @ Apr. 21 2012, 4:51 pm

Quote: Camorite @ Apr. 21 2012, 2:37 pm

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>So you put a targeting comupter on a prototype that was only build to test if the super laser could work to hit something no one ever wanted it to hit?

>wrong, the only way that they could hit the suncrusher is with a targeting computer. or are you saying that that idiot administrator, who probably never even touched a blaster, let alone the controls for the sdp, could hit a target the size of the suncrusher manually.

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 So why put a targeting computer that good on a platform only built to see if the superlasers worked only to then replace said targeting computer with a inferior one on the final product?


It don't matter if you don't think it should be there the fact of the matter is that the dsp has a targeting computer installed, otherwise it would never have been able to hit the suncrusher, period, END OF STORY.

"What i Hate more then anything else is someone that thinks that they know everything. That must mean that I really hate myself", "Freedom is the right of all setient beings!" (Optimus Prime: Transformers), "That's on small step for man, one giant leap for mankind!" Neil Armstrong 8-5-30 to 8-25-12

Camorite

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Report this Apr. 21 2012, 5:27 pm

Quote: chr33355 @ Apr. 21 2012, 4:56 pm

Quote: Camorite @ Apr. 20 2012, 7:13 pm

Quote: chr33355 @ Apr. 20 2012, 7:10 pm

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Quote: chr33355 @ Apr. 20 2012, 7:04 pm

Quote: chr33355 @ Mar. 10 2012, 7:06 pm

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>Just remember in the last book of the jedi academy trilogy the Death Star Prototype manages to target and graze the starfighter sized Sun Crusher.  The prototype wouldn't have near as sophiscated targeting system as the final product.

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 This is my original claim

Yeah, and you do realize you only defeated yourself by posting that.
 How?

Because you just acknowledged that the dsp hit the sun crusher with its sl.
 When did I ever say the DSP didn't.  I stated that because the DSP did hit a fighter sized target and would not have near as good of a targeting system as the final product.


You are as good as contradicting that statement every time you argue with me. All you have to do is look back over the last few pages and any idiot can see it.

"What i Hate more then anything else is someone that thinks that they know everything. That must mean that I really hate myself", "Freedom is the right of all setient beings!" (Optimus Prime: Transformers), "That's on small step for man, one giant leap for mankind!" Neil Armstrong 8-5-30 to 8-25-12

chr33355

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Report this Apr. 21 2012, 5:29 pm

Quote: Camorite @ Apr. 21 2012, 5:27 pm

Quote: chr33355 @ Apr. 21 2012, 4:56 pm

Quote: Camorite @ Apr. 20 2012, 7:13 pm

Quote: chr33355 @ Apr. 20 2012, 7:10 pm

Quote: Camorite @ Apr. 20 2012, 7:07 pm

Quote: chr33355 @ Apr. 20 2012, 7:04 pm

Quote: chr33355 @ Mar. 10 2012, 7:06 pm

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>Just remember in the last book of the jedi academy trilogy the Death Star Prototype manages to target and graze the starfighter sized Sun Crusher.  The prototype wouldn't have near as sophiscated targeting system as the final product.

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 This is my original claim

Yeah, and you do realize you only defeated yourself by posting that.
 How?

Because you just acknowledged that the dsp hit the sun crusher with its sl.
 When did I ever say the DSP didn't.  I stated that because the DSP did hit a fighter sized target and would not have near as good of a targeting system as the final product.

You are as good as contradicting that statement every time you argue with me. All you have to do is look back over the last few pages and any idiot can see it.
What contradiction?


Camorite

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Report this Apr. 21 2012, 5:49 pm

What contradictions? You are constantly going back and forth saying in one post that the dsp hit the sun crusher, then in the next one you are saying that it couldn't have happened because of the lack of a targeting computer.

"What i Hate more then anything else is someone that thinks that they know everything. That must mean that I really hate myself", "Freedom is the right of all setient beings!" (Optimus Prime: Transformers), "That's on small step for man, one giant leap for mankind!" Neil Armstrong 8-5-30 to 8-25-12

Chidori

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Report this Apr. 21 2012, 7:45 pm

Thought everyone was sticking with canon, but it doesn't really matter.


He's going to stick to his guns and side with 'Empire' no matter what you say, just as I would pretty much stick with 'Borg' no matter what he says, so it's pointless to 'debate' any further.


Let's just call it a draw and pick a topic worth debating. You know, one where there can be an actual debate. Just a thought, but whatever.

chr33355

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Report this Apr. 21 2012, 8:47 pm

Quote: Camorite @ Apr. 21 2012, 5:49 pm

>What contradictions? You are constantly going back and forth saying in one post that the dsp hit the sun crusher, then in the next one you are saying that it couldn't have happened because of the lack of a targeting computer.
 No I am not I am asking you to explain your postion that the DS I and DS II have a less accurate targeting computer than the prototype.  My postion has and always was since the DSP can hit a fighter the DS I and DS II should be able to do the same as the DS I and II would logically have better targeting systems since they were actually intended for battle.


chr33355

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Report this Apr. 21 2012, 8:53 pm

Quote: Chidori @ Apr. 21 2012, 7:45 pm

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>Thought everyone was sticking with canon, but it doesn't really matter.

>He's going to stick to his guns and side with 'Empire' no matter what you say, just as I would pretty much stick with 'Borg' no matter what he says, so it's pointless to 'debate' any further.

>Let's just call it a draw and pick a topic worth debating. You know, one where there can be an actual debate. Just a thought, but whatever.

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 You are incorrect if you provide evidence seen on screen tha I can't disprove i will concede that is how debates work point counter point until one side provides overwhelming evidence.  You are correct this debat died down years ago with most people accepting Wars wins due to firepower advantage, strategic speed advantage, and sheer resorces.  Trek is more advanced than Wars in some ways such as in many medical fields and transporters but they are way behind in technology that wins wars.


Chidori

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Report this Apr. 21 2012, 10:49 pm

Just doesn't seem like the debate is going much of anywhere. I was trying to think of a topic besides some kind of trek vs war thing. Maybe something to do with tribbles...


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Camorite

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Report this Apr. 22 2012, 7:04 am

Quote: chr33355 @ Apr. 21 2012, 8:47 pm

Quote: Camorite @ Apr. 21 2012, 5:49 pm

>What contradictions? You are constantly going back and forth saying in one post that the dsp hit the sun crusher, then in the next one you are saying that it couldn't have happened because of the lack of a targeting computer.
 No I am not I am asking you to explain your postion that the DS I and DS II have a less accurate targeting computer than the prototype.  My postion has and always was since the DSP can hit a fighter the DS I and DS II should be able to do the same as the DS I and II would logically have better targeting systems since they were actually intended for battle.


And I have done so, you just refuse to accept what I am saying despite the fact that it is backed up by solid canon sources.

"What i Hate more then anything else is someone that thinks that they know everything. That must mean that I really hate myself", "Freedom is the right of all setient beings!" (Optimus Prime: Transformers), "That's on small step for man, one giant leap for mankind!" Neil Armstrong 8-5-30 to 8-25-12

chr33355

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Report this Apr. 22 2012, 9:20 am

Quote: Chidori @ Apr. 21 2012, 10:49 pm

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>Just doesn't seem like the debate is going much of anywhere. I was trying to think of a topic besides some kind of trek vs war thing. Maybe something to do with tribbles...

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 I did do either a star trek vs DBZ or star wars vs DBZ for amusement purposes a while back.  Hell it might even still be in the archives.


Cap.Marty.D.Young

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Report this May. 18 2012, 3:59 am

In the other poll I voted for the Bprg, but one lone cube against the Death Star, I think the Empire could win, even if they can't hit the cube with the super laser, they could still inflict a lot of damage with wave after wave of tie fighters, if they could manage to knock out the cubes propulsion system, they would be sitting ducks for the super laser. 


One thought, would the Borg be able to breach the massive sheild of the Death Star? Would the the Death Stars weapons and fighters be able to breach the Borg sheild? This could turn into a long standoff, seeing who's shield falls first.


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