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How great of an antagonist was Malik?

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Created by: Matthias Russell

Matthias Russell

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Report this Jun. 07 2011, 4:43 am

^FAIL!!!! Silik was one of the dumbest antagonists in the franchise.  I was so happy when they killed him so we could move on.  There was nothing interesting or compelling about Silik to me; he was a cookie-cutter villain.

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Report this Jun. 07 2011, 6:50 am

I am inclined to agree on Sillik's particular personallity, because he was but a puppet for the misterious time traveller. But everytime he appeared you knew there would be trouble. But i digress... I spoke too soon (wrote lol). Yes, Silik was a poor choice. But my point was the Malik got short of what he could have done.


The choice of actor was not ideal. A problem with me is that I have heard of these episodes before I saw them, and the prospect of fighting the augments elevated my expectations. Malik turned out to be short, personality challenged and with no charisma at all. I defenitly expected a Kahn like character and he was not. Great villans make you like them some how. Not the case.


 

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Report this Aug. 29 2011, 10:14 am

Fresh thoughts?

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Report this Aug. 29 2011, 12:02 pm

I usually remember the villians either by their name or species but his name didn't even ring a bell, so he must not have impressed me.

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Report this Aug. 29 2011, 1:26 pm

Perhaps I just should have said, "The Augments". Of course, how many fans can name Ent villains? Silik is the only one I can remember off hand. We know Khan because he had his name in a movie title.

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Report this Sep. 16 2011, 11:36 am

I thought Malik was pretty one-dimensional.  His knee-jerk response to any situation was violence.  If it hadn't been for Brent Spiner, those episodes would have been much less memorable. 


On a side note, I think the idea of "augments" being assimilated by the Borg would be an interesting threat. 

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Report this Nov. 23 2011, 9:54 am

What made the Khan augments better than the ENT augments?

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Report this Nov. 26 2011, 3:07 pm

I'm not so mad about Khan, just as I'm not about Malik, so I suppose they are on par with each other.

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Report this Dec. 28 2011, 12:50 am

Malik was okay, but he definitely was no Kahn. They also dropped Khan's name in that episode, do you think it was a different Kahn or are we facing another continuity screw up? Kahn really wasnt 100+ years old in TOS if I remember correctly...?


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Report this Dec. 28 2011, 2:09 am

If I remember correctly, the augments came after Kahn, as Kahn actually comes before Cochran. He and the other supermen started the war that was over by the time of First Contact.


And Kahn was actually 200+ years old in TOS. Of course he slept through most of that.


The big difference between Kahn and Malik is that Kahn used his superior strength to back up his superior intellect, while Malik seems to have reversed that process.


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Report this Mar. 06 2012, 6:10 am

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Nov. 23 2011, 9:54 am

>What made the Khan augments better than the ENT augments?
A feature appearance in the best Trek movie?


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Report this Mar. 06 2012, 6:32 am

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>What made the Khan augments better than the ENT augments?
A feature appearance in the best Trek movie?

If you want to look at things in "real world" chronological order!


There's no denying though that Kahn had a charisma that inspired loyalty from his men. Malik ruled by family obligation and fear. Had the read The Prince, perhaps he would have avoided such mistakes.


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Report this Mar. 06 2012, 1:35 pm

Quote: Beershark @ Dec. 28 2011, 2:09 am

>If I remember correctly, the augments came after Kahn,


sort of.........they were embrios from Kahns time that werent brought to term till Archers era.


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Report this Mar. 06 2012, 3:56 pm

I wasn't impressed.

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Report this Mar. 10 2012, 4:53 pm

Inevitably he is of course always going to be compared with Khan. I thought he was a worthy antagonist for Archer (inasmuch as Archer is worthy of good antagonists...) And indeed he was ruthless, and for that matter a very effective liar. But at the same time there seemed to be something a little too much borrowed from Khan; as if he was merely a copy of Khan rather than an original character.


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