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JudoJoro

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Report this May. 20 2011, 3:07 pm

I watched few episodes of the original Star Trek and I am hooked!  I wanna see all Star Trek in order.  I don't mean the order they were released, but the storyline order.  Because the new Star Trek movie was a prequel of the 1966 series with Shatner.  Is that 2009 movie my starting point?  Help me out and educate a new fan!  Thanks in advance!


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Report this May. 20 2011, 7:04 pm

The new Star Trek movie is actually a chronological sequel to the 2002 film "Star Trek Nemesis" and, due to some time travel elements, takes place in an alternate reality back prior to the original series timeline.


I think you are best served by watching the shows in production order. That's really the best way to go...because even the prequel (Enterprise) and the last movie are really written as follow-ups to what came before (meaning lots of "nods" to earlier material, in-jokes, etc.) despite where they fall chronologically.

OtakuJo

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Report this May. 20 2011, 7:46 pm

I agree -- it's more consistent and far less convoluted that way. Besides, you'd have to go back to Enterprise first (Last produced, first in the timeline) if you wanted to do them in Chronological order. And yeah there's a lot in Enterprise that was first established in the series before it.


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McTrekkin

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Report this May. 21 2011, 6:22 am

It probably is best to go with what the others are saying, but if you want to start from the beginning, you'll have to go with Enterprise first. It might not be such a bad idea to do that, since few of us ever had the chance to experience Star Trek that way, and it might give you a unique perspective on the franchise.


 

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Report this May. 21 2011, 9:03 am

Start with The Cage and move on through TOS and TNG etc. pick up the films along the way...


You do not need to watch Enterprise first. Although it predates TOS timewise - because it was made so many years afterwards it really disqualifies itself. Besides which it has no real conection with TOS. It can be watched in a standalone fashion. If you watch it first you may well give up on Trek before you get to the best stuff (1966-1969).


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Ezri Janeway

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Report this May. 21 2011, 9:38 am

As others have said watch TOS first.


Then The Next Generation.


DS9.


Voyager.


And finally Enterprise.


The films you can pick up as you go along. If you stick with that general order you can probably watch some of the series in parallel without getting too confused.


Welcome fledgling Trekki. Let us know how you get on with the hundereds of hours of catching up you have. Enjoy!

KelisThePoet

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Report this May. 21 2011, 1:13 pm

Whenever a variation of the "where should I start" question gets put on these boards, the answers are always influenced by a fair amount of personal bias about what's best--because almost everyone has their personal favorites, and no one would really advocate starting with the worst.


But in your specific case, since you've already watched and enjoyed some episodes of the original series, you might want to continue on with the originals, rather than start with Enterprise, even though Enterprise is technically first in the Star Trek chronology.  This is just my opinion, but I don't think Enterprise is very much like the original series at all--I'm not saying it's necessarily bad, just different--so you might find the very things you've been enjoying about the original series missing from Enterprise.


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Treknoir

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Report this May. 21 2011, 2:50 pm

I'm gonna have to echo everyone else, go for the order of release and not chronological.


Here's a link to Memory Alpha: http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Category:Star_Trek_series


It will take you to the pages for all of the series and movies. Enjoy!


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JudoJoro

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Report this May. 21 2011, 5:27 pm

Thanks everyone.  Being stubborn I started with Enterprise.  I like Scott Bakula from Quantum leap!


 I saw episodes 1 to 5 and they are good - not as good as the few originals I saw, but still good.  I will report back after I finish all Enterprise seasons, so I can find out what comes next chronologically.  Thanks again!

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Report this May. 21 2011, 5:41 pm

Quote: KelisThePoet @ May. 21 2011, 1:13 pm

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>Whenever a variation of the "where should I start" question gets put on these boards, the answers are always influenced by a fair amount of personal bias about what's best--because almost everyone has their personal favorites,


I dunno about that, my personal fave is Voyager but it was 4th on my list.


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OtakuJo

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Report this May. 21 2011, 6:58 pm

Quote: KelisThePoet @ May. 21 2011, 1:13 pm

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>Whenever a variation of the "where should I start" question gets put on these boards, the answers are always influenced by a fair amount of personal bias about what's best--because almost everyone has their personal favorites, and no one would really advocate starting with the worst.

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Hey I don't remember telling anyone to start with DS9!!


There is a timeline (all visually laid out and colour-coded for people who like to stare at pretty colours.) I think the Star Trek Fact Files included the same.


We can't really say what chronological order to go with, because where would you put time travel episodes and so on. Very roughly, though:


Enterprise (22ndC)
TOS (23rdC)
Movies I-VI
TNG to season VI
DS9 Season I
TNG Season VII
DS9 to Season III
Generations
Voyager Season I
DS9 Season IV
Voyager Season II
First Contact
DS9 Season V
Voyager Season III
DS9 Season VI
Voyager Season IV
DS9 Season VII
Insurrection
Voyager Season V-VII
Nemesis
ST-2009


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ColPeg

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Report this May. 22 2011, 6:42 am

Yes, date of release is the better way to go.  This is due to the writers building on what was already thought of and built upon.  i.e. couldn't have had The Managerie without the original pilot The Cage, Couldn't have had The Wrath of Kahn without Space Seed.


Once you've seen all and watch the 2009 movie - if you really watch everything in detail - you might see many error in the last movie.


If you don't, contact me at my profile and I'll send you my review.


BTW if you watched everything up to the last movie, in a row, with no breaks, it would take a little over 21 days.


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Ezri Janeway

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Report this May. 22 2011, 3:18 pm

Quote: ColPeg @ May. 22 2011, 6:42 am

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>BTW if you watched everything up to the last movie, in a row, with no breaks, it would take a little over 21 days.

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Fascinating!


I know what Ill be volunteering to do on the next charity thing.


"Let me see if Ive got this straight. You're risking the ship, the crew, and the mission on the assumptions that Helkara and Leishman are engineering geniuses, Tharp is a piloting savant, our transporter chief can work miracles, and the Breen are unwilling to sacrifice themselves in a kamikaze attack?" "Yup." "Damn I LOVE this job."

JudoJoro

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Report this Jun. 24 2011, 5:44 pm

Quote: OtakuJo @ May. 21 2011, 6:58 pm

Quote: KelisThePoet @ May. 21 2011, 1:13 pm

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>Whenever a variation of the "where should I start" question gets put on these boards, the answers are always influenced by a fair amount of personal bias about what's best--because almost everyone has their personal favorites, and no one would really advocate starting with the worst.

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Hey I don't remember telling anyone to start with DS9!!

There is a timeline (all visually laid out and colour-coded for people who like to stare at pretty colours.) I think the Star Trek Fact Files included the same.

We can't really say what chronological order to go with, because where would you put time travel episodes and so on. Very roughly, though:

Enterprise (22ndC)
TOS (23rdC)
Movies I-VI
TNG to season VI
DS9 Season I
TNG Season VII
DS9 to Season III
Generations
Voyager Season I
DS9 Season IV
Voyager Season II
First Contact
DS9 Season V
Voyager Season III
DS9 Season VI
Voyager Season IV
DS9 Season VII
Insurrection
Voyager Season V-VII
Nemesis
ST-2009


   Why are you placing st-2009 as last chronologically?  The story in st-2009 takes place before Kirk is a captain?

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Report this Jun. 24 2011, 6:14 pm

Quote: JudoJoro @ Jun. 24 2011, 5:44 pm

Quote: OtakuJo @ May. 21 2011, 6:58 pm

Quote: KelisThePoet @ May. 21 2011, 1:13 pm

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>Whenever a variation of the "where should I start" question gets put on these boards, the answers are always influenced by a fair amount of personal bias about what's best--because almost everyone has their personal favorites, and no one would really advocate starting with the worst.

>

Hey I don't remember telling anyone to start with DS9!!

There is a timeline (all visually laid out and colour-coded for people who like to stare at pretty colours.) I think the Star Trek Fact Files included the same.

We can't really say what chronological order to go with, because where would you put time travel episodes and so on. Very roughly, though:

Enterprise (22ndC)
TOS (23rdC)
Movies I-VI
TNG to season VI
DS9 Season I
TNG Season VII
DS9 to Season III
Generations
Voyager Season I
DS9 Season IV
Voyager Season II
First Contact
DS9 Season V
Voyager Season III
DS9 Season VI
Voyager Season IV
DS9 Season VII
Insurrection
Voyager Season V-VII
Nemesis
ST-2009

   Why are you placing st-2009 as last chronologically?  The story in st-2009 takes place before Kirk is a captain?


Because it takes place in an altered time line and, as such, is NOT a prequel to TOS. The Time change occurs when post NEMESIS romulans travel back in time. 


And don't forget the animated series, which should be viewed after TOS as it functions as "The Fourth Season".


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