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Star Trek V: The Final Word

Kornula

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Report this Jul. 25 2011, 10:38 pm

Quote: 2takesfrakes @ Jul. 14 2011, 2:00 pm

>

>Never let it be said that 2takesfrakes
doesn't give credit where credit is due:

>I've recently witnessed the craptacular STAR TREK V.
And watching those rock climbers during the openning
credits, I saw some amazing footage! UNTIL, that is ...

>the rock climber we've been watching for about 2 minutes,
suddenly gains 60 pounds as Shatner steps into it! I don't
remember if I noticed that before, but it made me laugh so
loud and hardy, that it instantly reminded me of how this
movie's so UNintentially funny throughout. And it was, too ...

>


this just adds to the "We need our pain" theme.. he he

Vger23

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Report this Jul. 26 2011, 4:47 am

Quote: 2takesfrakes @ Jul. 14 2011, 2:00 pm

>

>Never let it be said that 2takesfrakes
doesn't give credit where credit is due:

>I've recently witnessed the craptacular STAR TREK V.
And watching those rock climbers during the openning
credits, I saw some amazing footage! UNTIL, that is ...

>the rock climber we've been watching for about 2 minutes,
suddenly gains 60 pounds as Shatner steps into it! I don't
remember if I noticed that before, but it made me laugh so
loud and hardy, that it instantly reminded me of how this
movie's so UNintentially funny throughout. And it was, too ...

>


You REALLY have a personal problem with Shatner, huh?


I AM KEE-ROCK!!

2takesfrakes

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Report this Jul. 26 2011, 6:15 am

Nothing of the kind! I know you're a die-hard fan
of William Shatner's, however. AND that this is
one of your favorite STAR TREK movies. So, I have
censored myself, in my appraisal of both he and his
directorial debut - as not to ruffle feathers, you see.


Suffice it to say that I'm confident Mr. Shatner's
often confused the size of his talent with the size
of his paycheque. And THE FINAL FRONTIER is proof!


ServalanFan, dear ... as for the mis-matched stunt
doubles being an "homage" to the TOS fight scenes ...
you give him far too much credit. He just believes
that the STAR TREK audience isn't swift or observant.


Vger23

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Report this Jul. 26 2011, 7:04 am

Quote: 2takesfrakes @ Jul. 26 2011, 6:15 am

>

>Nothing of the kind! I know you're a die-hard fan
of William Shatner's, however. AND that this is
one of your favorite STAR TREK movies. So, I have
censored myself, in my appraisal of both he and his
directorial debut - as not to ruffle feathers, you see.

>Suffice it to say that I'm confident Mr. Shatner's
often confused the size of his talent with the size
of his paycheque. And THE FINAL FRONTIER is proof!

>ServalanFan, dear ... as for the mis-matched stunt
doubles being an "homage" to the TOS fight scenes ...
you give him far too much credit. He just believes
that the STAR TREK audience isn't swift or observant.

>


 


Fair enough, Frakes. I'm picking up what you're putting down.


 


 


I AM KEE-ROCK!!

2takesfrakes

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Report this Jul. 26 2011, 1:24 pm

OK, let's pretend for a minute that STAR TREK 5
danced only to Shatner's tune - his concept, with
well-executed effects, for the money. It would be
only slightly better. For one thing, we're still
out to find GOD, which ... I mean, come on ...
by its very nature it's got to disappoint. It must.


The mutiny concept now would include Spock and Bones.
This idea of everybody turning their backs on Kirk
ONLY so that HE alone receives ALL of the accolades for
the story's resolution is a second strike against it.
What's the friendship of the Second Bananas about then?


And the Rock Men MAY have been an interesting concept,
but even F4's THING, years later, still looked like a fake,
rubber suit. I don't think it would be able to fly ... at least
not convincingly. Without the crappy effects, the "humor,"
the revisions made ... STAR TREK 5 would still fall short.


Kornula

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Report this Jul. 26 2011, 9:42 pm

Quote: 2takesfrakes @ Jul. 26 2011, 1:24 pm

>

>OK, let's pretend for a minute that STAR TREK 5
danced only to Shatner's tune - his concept, with
well-executed effects, for the money. It would be
only slightly better. For one thing, we're still
out to find GOD, which ... I mean, come on ...
by its very nature it's got to disappoint. It must.

>The mutiny concept now would include Spock and Bones.
This idea of everybody turning their backs on Kirk
ONLY so that HE alone receives ALL of the accolades for
the story's resolution is a second strike against it.
What's the friendship of the Second Bananas about then?

>And the Rock Men MAY have been an interesting concept,
but even F4's THING, years later, still looked like a fake,
rubber suit. I don't think it would be able to fly ... at least
not convincingly. Without the crappy effects, the "humor,"
the revisions made ... STAR TREK 5 would still fall short.

>


Shoulda...


Woulda


Coulda have....

roseandzippin

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Report this Jul. 30 2011, 7:48 am

Quote: 2takesfrakes @ Jul. 14 2011, 2:00 pm

>

>Never let it be said that 2takesfrakes
doesn't give credit where credit is due:

>I've recently witnessed the craptacular STAR TREK V.
And watching those rock climbers during the openning
credits, I saw some amazing footage! UNTIL, that is ...

>the rock climber we've been watching for about 2 minutes,
suddenly gains 60 pounds as Shatner steps into it! I don't
remember if I noticed that before, but it made me laugh so
loud and hardy, that it instantly reminded me of how this
movie's so UNintentially funny throughout. And it was, too ...

>


YESH! I totally noticed that first time. In the beginning, I was like, "Has Spock lost his Vulcan logic? What is he doing climbing a rock?" 


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roseandzippin

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Report this Jul. 30 2011, 7:50 am

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>Well I thought V was tied with IV for the funniest Star Trek scenes. Yes, some zealous lunatic was forcing the crew to accompany him on a mission from GOD. I admit it is not one of Star Treks greater moments. But for what it's worth it made me laugh.

>2Frakes--"I'm confident Mr. Shatner's
often confused the size of his talent with the size
of his paycheque."

>Maybe this is true. But when you are getting only $600 per episode in TOS I dont think its his paycheck that makes him think he is talented. Maybe it's the opposite. Maybe since he got paid such a small amount he figured that he must have been better than others based upon his history as a poor and impoverished actor. Nevertheless, I will return to V to see that 60lb gain of weight. And then I will laugh again.

>


Eh, I must admit, the rocket boots were epic. Along with the lime green. And the singing. But come ON, IV is so much better. XD Save the whales! We might need them in the near future...


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Gaynor_von_Minct

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Report this Aug. 01 2011, 6:12 am

V has improved with age.

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